Got arrested this morning

Similar situation for me in 2022. Very unprofessional police response. I didn’t make a complaint against my force to avoid renewal etc issues. Selfish I know.

I’ve had half a dozen police interactions in which firearms were discussed or present, and all others have been positive.


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Reports of a serious crime against fashion? 😂
 
I think it does depend exactly what, the person who called in said to get that response.
it’s happened to a friend and I some years ago, police weren’t armed though.
They decided, after talking with us that the reporter (Riding school) w as being facetious and apoligised.
No offence taken.
Ken.
How often have you heard of the police following up and charging the person reporting though?

It’s about time these morons are held to account - a person with a gun in woodland/rural areas in green/camo clothing is not the same as a person walking down a high street in a city in a tracksuit with a gun - the police can and should use judgement, not leap to multiple vehicles/officers and arrests before they have even asked the questions.

I’ve been stopped twice while out foxing, the police officers had the sense to stop us and simply say “hi lads, what you up to”…..took 30 seconds to assess the situation. Sounds like in this situation there was a Walter Mitty officer involved who never made it onto seal team 2 and so wants to try and counter the fact he never gets to actually fire any shots with the firearm he carries.
 
A conversation lasting about 10 seconds would have told the response unit that the shooters were carrying out a completely lawful activity, with permission to be on the land, with no offence committed.
No need to arrest, detain or handcuff anyone in this situation, I wonder if any of those officers who arrived had an ounce of common sense between them.
Exactly, and we are victims of the absolute pile of sh*te system the police/government have created - there is nothing in the system to show what ground is covered by whom - even though we all need to list a place to use firearms.

Even an excel spreadsheet sheet can be searched within seconds for the name of ground, so surely the police could enter a vague location into a system when they list a person who has acquired a firearms cert -

I.e.-

James Smith FAC holder
Location - sleepy cow farm, Dorset

That way when some “terrified person” calls and says “there’s a terrorist with a gun on sleepy cow farm” the police can search “sleepy cow farm” and it will say “James smith”

Then go to said farm “hello, is that James?”

End of enquiry….now go tell the terrified person how the world works to stop them wasting time in the future.
 
How often have you heard of the police following up and charging the person reporting though?

It’s about time these morons are held to account - a person with a gun in woodland/rural areas in green/camo clothing is not the same as a person walking down a high street in a city in a tracksuit with a gun - the police can and should use judgement, not leap to multiple vehicles/officers and arrests before they have even asked the questions.

I’ve been stopped twice while out foxing, the police officers had the sense to stop us and simply say “hi lads, what you up to”…..took 30 seconds to assess the situation. Sounds like in this situation there was a Walter Mitty officer involved who never made it onto seal team 2 and so wants to try and counter the fact he never gets to actually fire any shots with the firearm he carries.
Miles away, little information given over the radio, unknown person/s with unknown gun/s in unknown situation and circumstances. Look what happened with Dale Cregan
 
Calls to the Police, various:

1. I wish to report an aggressively attired man in Crocs, wielding a high-powered army-like sniper's rifle. He was also accompanied by an ugly looking dog!

2. I'm concerned that a frail & elderly Edwardian attired gentleman, struggling to carry a shocking green fowling peice, may require urgent assistance. He is also attempting to drag a huge, pure white deer!

K
😃
 
This is kind of how I feel about it. If we take this, then what next? How much further into the corner do we get pushed. Its like we are doing something socially unacceptable. I get the idea and I want to work with the police but if shooters are always taking a step back then where do we end up left?
I can tell you what’s next - after the implementations of a “call in system” it will be geo-tagging, whereby if you want to carry a firearm you will need to have some sort of GPS tracking to show where you are - it’s all part of the “death by one thousand cuts” system that seems to be being implemented and many shooters are happily waltzing along the path.

I remember looking at the US NRA spokespersons and thinking they were extreme and off-putting, I now understand exactly why they do not give one inch.

So far in my short time with firearms we have -

Lost the right to use pistols.

Lost the right to use large chamberings semi-autos.

Lost the right to use snares.

Had medical forms made compulsory (even though doctors have no obligation to complete them)

Having powders restricted through reach.

On the way to having ammunition materials restricted.

On the way to having licence costs elevated by 400%.

Can anyone think of any ground we have gained? The only small thing would be the ability to use less than 100gr bullets on red deer and use electronic scopes to shoot deer A why?…well, because for now it suits the governments environmental tree planting narrative.

When the deer numbers are down (and that will happen eventually in many areas) we will have those things taken again….

We need to vote in politicians who are not blind or liking to line their own pockets.
 
I farm on the edge of a major airport.
I was out after foxes and the helicopter that often patrolled the perimeter flew overhead.
I was hidden from sight in a woodland ride and it passed, but I could hear it hovering about half a mile away on the other side of the wood. As I walked back along the ride towards the road I could see the top of one of the police Discoveries parked up. I unloaded and walked up out of sight, placed the rifle down before walking out to greet them.
They asked what I was doing and where the weapon was. I told them, and they seemed happy, didn't even get out of the vehicle.

I was told by the local police not to tell the airport I was shooting as they get upset. The Airport police didn't inform the local police of their concern before dispatching a vehicle to have a look after the helicopter spotted me (thermal possibly, I was wearing camo and in a treeline, or I need to up my fieldcraft).

But it was a positive encounter with police just doing their job. If I'd been arrested or otherwise detained I might have a different view of it, but around here they have always been very reasonable.
 
I can tell you what’s next - after the implementations of a “call in system” it will be geo-tagging, whereby if you want to carry a firearm you will need to have some sort of GPS tracking to show where you are - it’s all part of the “death by one thousand cuts” system that seems to be being implemented and many shooters are happily waltzing along the path.

I remember looking at the US NRA spokespersons and thinking they were extreme and off-putting, I now understand exactly why they do not give one inch.

So far in my short time with firearms we have -

Lost the right to use pistols.

Lost the right to use large chamberings semi-autos.

Lost the right to use snares.

Had medical forms made compulsory (even though doctors have no obligation to complete them)

Having powders restricted through reach.

On the way to having ammunition materials restricted.

On the way to having licence costs elevated by 400%.

Can anyone think of any ground we have gained? The only small thing would be the ability to use less than 100gr bullets on red deer and use electronic scopes to shoot deer A why?…well, because for now it suits the governments environmental tree planting narrative.

When the deer numbers are down (and that will happen eventually in many areas) we will have those things taken again….

We need to vote in politicians who are not blind or liking to line their own pockets.
That would mean first bottling some Unicorn tears then.:-|
 
It's a condition of a night license anyway. Saves a pile of grief
Not all people that shoot at night need a night shooting licence.

If I walk out my back door at night and see a fox I do not want to have to wait until I’ve called PC plod to be able to carry out a lawful activity.

It’s erosion of liberties with no benefit to society, the percentages of risk to public are in the 10ths of a single percent with firearms, yet our government seem to be focusing on it….
 
I farm on the edge of a major airport.
I was out after foxes and the helicopter that often patrolled the perimeter flew overhead.
I was hidden from sight in a woodland ride and it passed, but I could hear it hovering about half a mile away on the other side of the wood. As I walked back along the ride towards the road I could see the top of one of the police Discoveries parked up. I unloaded and walked up out of sight, placed the rifle down before walking out to greet them.
They asked what I was doing and where the weapon was. I told them, and they seemed happy, didn't even get out of the vehicle.

I was told by the local police not to tell the airport I was shooting as they get upset. The Airport police didn't inform the local police of their concern before dispatching a vehicle to have a look after the helicopter spotted me (thermal possibly, I was wearing camo and in a treeline, or I need to up my fieldcraft).

But it was a positive encounter with police just doing their job. If I'd been arrested or otherwise detained I might have a different view of it, but around here they have always been very reasonable.
You were very unlikely hidden from the Helo, they are all fitted up with the best thermal camera systems, when you unloaded you were probably examined in some detail, hence the plod asking where the rifle was.
 
You were very unlikely hidden from the Helo, they are all fitted up with the best thermal camera systems, when you unloaded you were probably examined in some detail, hence the plod asking where the rifle was.
Yeah, that's what I guessed. I would think they could also see what activity I was doing, and that was why they were a bit more relaxed when I met the patrol at the road.
 
Yeah, that's what I guessed. I would think they could also see what activity I was doing, and that was why they were a bit more relaxed when I met the patrol at the road.
Nice that we as tax payers get to pay for someone to play around in a helicopter, something a drone can do for 1/10th of the cost and with less risk and noise.
 
Nice that we as tax payers get to pay for someone to play around in a helicopter, something a drone can do for 1/10th of the cost and with less risk and noise.
This was about 15 years ago. They may well fly drones now I'll have to ask. But I guess the risk of someone either flying an unauthorised drone unnoticed or the authorised one being reported is most likely high.
They do have drone cartridges for the shotguns, but these aren't much good against drones travelling fast or higher than about 40yds.

There are still fly helicopters around the place but as it's an airport I rarely look up to see if it's a patrol, a medical or business one coming in.
 
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