Hull Cartridges

[Heym SR20]

In my experience lead shot deforms very little if at all in a pigeon or pheasant, insufficient energy to do so I guess.

Have you actually measured the pellets and done a full analysis of the meat for minute particles of lead.

If you read the scientific papers most of the results are from carcasses bought at random from butchers and supermarkets and it is in these that they are finding the microscopic particles.

I too was under the impression that lead pellets don’t leave minute particles in game meat as they are not impacting with 1,000 ftlbs of energy like a rifle bullet.

But the new studies published in August 2022 are quite revealing.

 

[Liveonce]

For clay shooting I think they will revert to steel with plastic wads, at the end of the day if its a propper clay ground and its in a contained area with the wads can be picked up with machinery (like alot of ground already do). Some clay grounds abroad have a large sheet that catches the lead that can then be re cycled and avoid ground contamination.

With time the bio wads will come down in price (economy of scale) as I think most European manufacturers will swap out to biodegradable plastics.

As for pigeon shooting I'm sure there will be a solution soon with bio wads and steel once the market for them picks up.

let’s hope so but in reality the U.K. market is tiny to compared to the rest and without EU legislation to force a change I would not bet on it. Then no agreed standard on what a biodegradable wad needs to comply with to be classified as such, lots of uncertainty if investing in this to guarantee return. The water soluble wad was funded back in 2013 with large EU grants but only now with the voluntary transition and steel shoot it gaining any market and then really only in the U.K.

Have you actually measured the pellets and done a full analysis of the meat for minute particles of lead.

If you read the scientific papers most of the results are from carcasses bought at random from butchers and supermarkets and it is in these that they are finding the microscopic particles.

But of course you will be using very different lead cartridges to whatever everybody else uses.

No have not just observation and you may be correct minute particles may be present but not detectable by human (my) eyes, but the pellets removed do not look to have expand or flattened like say you would expect a .22 subsonic bullet to do.

 

[zimtrout]

Hello. Are these the steel High Pheasant and, if so, please, what choke do you have in each barrel? I am guessing your gun is 2 3/4" chamber? SBS or OU?

Hi
Not high pheasant lead this season. I have used the the high pheasant steel too. Maximum choke I have used is half. 32g 4s. I think the 3s would be better.
Rizzini ou 3 inch chambers