Impact of the Trophy Ban

[Heym SR20]

By product of the meat trade, Think this would be £574 (2022 joberg airport).

Shot by hunters, some will be client hunters, others by professionals. And all those skins you leave behind, many will end up like these ones in Joberg airport.

 

[Heym SR20]

No we are not - mostly we are too polite

Are we shouting loudest today?

 

[sikamalc]

Closer to home, a very good example of the negative impact of Tourists is the North West 500. How much disruption do all the camper vans cause and how much does bring to the local economy.

Compare this to fishing and stalking lodges

One of the big challenges is that many hunting type operations are so far out of the pocket book of most people that it is a sport of the very wealthy. I know lodges in Scotland where you are looking at £20k plus for a week just to stay there. Yes you eat five course dinners cooked by michelin starred chef (so you go hungry all the time) and that is before any sport is added in.

20k for a week.
You should have booked with me 6 days 2 stags all meals, wines at dinner, 4x4 vehicles for not even a quarter of that price.

 

[sh1kar]

Aye but to be fair my Knock House bash at £20k was 9 couples. 13 stags. Goose flighting. 2 walked up days. 2 duck flights. Trip out in 54ft boat to Fingals cave. Salmon and trout fishing. All in for a week

Oh and a day pony trekking for the girls

Cost per head v low and we did a ceileih Bash last night. Mistake in hindsight with a long drive home ahead

 

[Dan Newcombe]

Apologies if it has been said before in the longer thread, but why does bringing a trophy back make any difference to the decision to go and hoot the animal?

I'm comfortable with the link of hunting income and conservation and morally see no difference between shooting a kudu and a red stag, but I don't understand what the problem is with the bill as it not preventing anyone going hunting. What am I missing?

Now, dear SD types, I'm asking partly as I will use this in the undergraduate course I am creating and teaching as an example of use of animals, so please, keep the comments sensible

It’s a fair point - I’m not a trophy person, I’ve shot a few deer and haven’t got any mounted other than one my wife had a go at, just doesn’t flick my switch.

I also probably wouldn’t go abroad for a ‘trophy’ hunt but that’s because it’s not my thing - I cannot see how banning imports of trophies is going to achieve much other than screwing over local people with jobs reliant on it.

Use of an animal wise - how is a trophy not a legitimate use? As far as I understand the meat etc is used locally and appreciated, why not use the head / skin?

A trophy is anything that you take away from achieving something - will they also take your photos?

I get that some stuff is endangered in some places but this seems to have been driven by people (as usual) who are trying to shaft a group of people not help wildlife.

 

[Safari Hunter]

As it stands at the moment just ignore it. There is no ban. They are trying for it but it needs to go through the Lords first. It took the Ivory ban many years to put in place through the Lords so why would this be any different.
Also bare in mind this is an import ban for hunting trophies, the export ban is also being talked about so anyone over here with foreign clients could be facing the same as the Africans are.

 

[Pelyma]

Will it not just end up like Big Game Fishing; very few skin mounts are made as most fish are C&R. You take photos and measurements so it looks like your fish, but it isn't your fish. You've hunted it, had the experience, got the photos and got a facsimile on the wall, for maybe less than an actual skin mount.

 

[308tikka]

By product of the meat trade, Think this would be £574 (2022 joberg airport).

As of last week $1000 for lowest class skin at OR Tambo

 

[Bushwack]

As it stands at the moment just ignore it. There is no ban. They are trying for it but it needs to go through the Lords first. It took the Ivory ban many years to put in place through the Lords so why would this be any different.
Also bare in mind this is an import ban for hunting trophies, the export ban is also being talked about so anyone over here with foreign clients could be facing the same as the Africans are.

Make sense, i really hope so!