Ivermectin, for the interested
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If it's my Mum who say's it's true then I'll hold it in standby.What if my mum says it's true Alex, does that count?
by the way leeches are used in medicine, as are maggots. Toxic chemicals are used eg. Chemotherapy. In fact all medicines are toxic at the wrong dose. Bleeding could almost be considered early kidney dialysis.
And if you look up the history of paramedian forehead flaps for nasal reconstruction you might be suprised to hear the technique is known to have originated before christ was born and is largely unchanged.
Hard to do harm with an approved drug? Ever heard of warfarin? used as a blood thinner and rat poison. Accidental overdose is more common than you think. Or heard of MRONJ- medication related osteonecrosis of the jaw.
We are coming across new problems with all the new medications we develop....
I hope that ivermectin does have a role to play but I am not surprised to hear the doctors you've spoken to haven't heard of it. That is because if it is a drug to treat parasites and were not a 3rd world country then it is probably rarely used. Most practicing doctors have very little to no role in research.
Even if ivermectin has a role there is no cure for any virus anyway. Fact.
You have to stimulate the human immune system to develop antibodies against it to provide some immunity. And that is with either a vaccine or by catching the virus itself.
Ive been double vaccinated since march and yesterday tested positive for Covid.
Im more interested in what humans long term immunity is like to covid rather than what role ivermectin might have because it probably doesn't really matter in the end.
Freeforester
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Somewhat unlike Warfarin, then.
A couple of friends were less lucky, they first got Covid (one had leukaemia five year ago) both were pretty floored, and had symptoms of long Covid. On advice from their doctors, they thereafter were vaccinated, which is where their problems really began, both were floored for a further six weeks, both suffering relapses. Apparently it’s more common than is widely publicised, but I digress. It would appear that their respective doctors were of the view that natural immunity would not be sufficient against another possible reinfection.
Anyone taking ivermectin per the FLCCC‘s IMASK+ protocol is highly unlikely to get ill in the first place. Those taking ivermectin upon infection do not suffer the impacts of long Covid. If human immunity to SARS COV 2 is anything like that gained against SARS COV (1), there should not be much cause for concern.
Safety, tolerability, and pharmacokinetics of escalating high doses of ivermectin in healthy adult subjects - PubMed
Safety and pharmacokinetics (PK) of the antiparasitic drug ivermectin, administered in higher and/or more frequent doses than currently approved for human use, were evaluated in a double-blind, placebo-controlled, dose escalation study. Subjects (n = 68) were assigned to one of four panels (3:1...
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Somewhat unlike Warfarin, then.
A couple of friends were less lucky, they first got Covid (one had leukaemia five year ago) both were pretty floored, and had symptoms of long Covid. On advice from their doctors, they thereafter were vaccinated, which is where their problems really began, both were floored for a further six weeks, both suffering relapses. Apparently it’s more common than is widely publicised, but I digress. It would appear that their respective doctors were of the view that natural immunity would not be sufficient against another possible reinfection.
Anyone taking ivermectin per the FLCCC‘s IMASK+ protocol is highly unlikely to get ill in the first place. Those taking ivermectin upon infection do not suffer the impacts of long Covid. If human immunity to SARS COV 2 is anything like that gained against SARS COV (1), there should not be much cause for concern.
Double jabbed and not a crack pot but my ears are not blocked and are open to listening
A common lament of our times is that politicians are swayed more by social media sentiment than by science. They listen to twitterati clamour more than constituent letters.
Well...that malaise might finally pay dividends: Unvaccinated Joe Rogan [12 million followers] recently caught and sloughed covid in three days by using a treatment pack that included Ivermectin.
The nay-sayers [boom-tish] want to gas-light Ivermectin data by calling it a "horse-wormer". What the rapid rise in the USA of prescribed Ivermectin is reflecting is Doctor-patient selection of what is working.
We just need a few more "celebs" to come forward about the treatments that their physicians used...hopefully governments will heed the public opinion that attends those revelations.
Well...that malaise might finally pay dividends: Unvaccinated Joe Rogan [12 million followers] recently caught and sloughed covid in three days by using a treatment pack that included Ivermectin.
The nay-sayers [boom-tish] want to gas-light Ivermectin data by calling it a "horse-wormer". What the rapid rise in the USA of prescribed Ivermectin is reflecting is Doctor-patient selection of what is working.
We just need a few more "celebs" to come forward about the treatments that their physicians used...hopefully governments will heed the public opinion that attends those revelations.
Is that irony? isn't that precisely what you are doing with this post. ????????
JabaliHunter
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Erm...nope.
What I am saying is that physicians in the US are now prescribing Ivermectin for covid in huge numbers. Because it works.
Until now, governments and media have been able to suppress that reality.
As the de facto [real world] vindication of alternate treatments rises, it will be harder for govt-media to suppress.
NIH data adequately robust?
No unfortunately that proves absolutely nothing, other than there are more presciptions being written.
Your statement was that physicians in the US are prescibing ivermectin in huge numbers. Those prescriptions above could be from a few dozen daft doctors who listen to (what did you call it?) Twitterati.
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We have used Ivermectin for years in treating for parasites in cattle, my vet said it is one of the safest products used by them. He even said he has self medicated with it pre Covid with no ill effects. Vaccine companies have serious vested interests in promoting their products, & will try to discredit others in the same business. The second outbreak of foot & mouth happened af†er Blair had agreed that any further foot & mouth outbreak was going to be dealt with by vaccination. The contracts were signed, & guess what, the second outbreak duly occurred & the disease was traced back to a drain that came out of the vaccine lab. Ivermectin costs pence, vaccines don't. I await serious research by independent companies. This one interests me, I have a gallon or 2 of it kicking around somewhere. Cheers.
I should note that Joe Rogan is a 54 year old bloke in excellent physical condition. Chances are he'd have sloughed COVID in less than a week whatever he did.
This is the kind of thing that really is potentially misleading. Just the same as the Africa roll out data really. Poorly monitored, loads and loads of uncontrolled variables and with no control.
The facts:
He took Ivermectin
He took monoclonal antibodies
He took a whole load of other stuff as well
He recovered from COVID.
To jump from these statements to the conclusion 'He recovered from COVID because he took Ivermectin' is potentially fallacious. Correlation =/= causation and even if all the meds did do something, how can you be sure it was the Ivermectin in the cocktail of substances that's responsible? You can't, you'd just like that to be the case and so made the shaky logical leap.
Rewulf
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If you were 'a healthy' 54 year old, would you let someone give you covid , on the chance you would slough it off in a week ?
Because I wouldnt.
Literally no one said that.
Lets be straight here , the thread is called Ivermectin - FOR THE INTERESTED, and yet we have a constant stream of detractors, who have NO EVIDENCE that it doesnt help fight and prevent covid, lining up to take a swipe at those who ARE interested.
They are fully prepared to back the various vaccines , that swerved the usual testing regime, and are still only licenced to use under emergency measures, yet a tried and tested drug, that has been used on humans for decades, and recently used , and continues to be used with success, on covid sufferers.
What is it about it that offends you so much ?
Is it because you have such hatred for anything that drifts from the norm ?
Is it because you trust the government and pharma without doubt , they wouldnt sell you something harmful surely, despite having done so time and time again.....*
*Google ranitidine (zantac) , and why a common , much used drug for 40 years , suddenly disappeared off the shelves overnight, or look at the debacle of thalidomide ?
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