Ivermectin, for the interested

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AGR said:
Is that the same as post 106? Have to say, I am convinced this would be a better path to follow than the vaccine.
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3 week rollout and it could be all over, rover.

Rhymes for COVID times
I’m on the Ivermectin, so - the virus can’t get me, - it’s unique ‘means of function’ mean that I’ll get off Scott-free!
Aye, Ivermectin’s just the stuff, - and vitamin D3: they’ll keep me healthy, sure enough,
- just watch - and lo! - you’ll see,
Though governments have ‘bet the farm’ on vaccines as their ‘saviour’ , GP’s who pledge ‘First, do no harm’
may soon change their behaviour,
For ‘mectin stops the virus’ spread (unlike the vax injection) - it’s users simply cannot shed’ a viral-load infection;

In time, our ‘betters’ will admit this better policy, will make the virus soon submit unto redundancy!
For, when we take such wond’rous balm, the virus is soon beaten, and once again in “State” of calm,
may rest’rant meals be eaten;
But!
For now, the ‘Pow’rs that be’ - alas - see fit to ‘sit and wait’, content to see our loved ones pass,
surrend’ring to their fate,

To ‘risk’ the use of ‘novel’ drugs is not the ‘done thing’ here, - ignoring, with indiff’rent shrugs,
results from far and near;
‘Act not in haste’s their favour’d ploy to stymie clear solutions, though elsewhere, ‘mectin’ soon brings joy, to enlightened institutions:

For everywhere it’s yet been used - the sickness dissipates, and peoples, far too long abus’d, thereafter celebrate!
This ’wonder drug’ that saves so many from such a needless woe, can be roll’d out - for scarce a penny
- to shield against this foe!

Though ‘cheap solutions’ aren’t the way our government would like,
to finally stand up and say: “Oi! Virus - on yer bike!”
No! - Like panicked rabbits, entranc-ed by the scheming, twisting stoat -
Their spendthrift habits seek to buy our costly isles’ “Re-float”,

For, ultimately, we shall pay, in treasure, pain and sorrow, that they may look us in the eye,
deliv’ring ‘bright tomorrow’:-
“That Ivermectin’s just no good - it’s not yet tried and tested!” and so, downgrade our hopeful mood,
- not harm ‘int’rests-in-vested’....

While many now seek jobs anew, as ‘furlough’ help is ending, our creditors enrich a ’few’,
while “New ideas” are trending,
Beguiling youth with tinsel’d pledge, whilst all the while enslaving, and thus deny our young their ‘wedge’
- To satisfy their craving!

And all because they will not see the better way to end, this Hellish mess for you and me, ignoring global trend,
Which daily grows, and recognise the benefits to all - of Ivermectin’s great ‘surprise’
for creatures - great and small;
This worming drug will save our world from Covid’s terror-reign, if only they’d be rather bold,
and spare us yet more pain:
There is no downside to its use, when ‘push’ doth come to ‘shove’, so : ‘Whitty’ - ACT - don’t be obtuse,
- help save the ones we love,
For all around, where ‘mectin’s used, mortality rates drop; now, surely we’re so much abused,
the time has come to stop:
Consider, all, (- well - all who think), this medicine’s advance: pray “Join the dots” before we sink
- let’s Ivermectin “chance”!

One hundred-thousand lives now lost, yet they prevaricate, - what waste of life, the pain, the cost:
there’s little to debate:
Those nations elsewhere lead the way, now we must emulate,
or muddle on, - and rue the day, we changed our minds gey late...
 
Freeforester said:




3 week rollout and it could be all over, rover.

Rhymes for COVID times
I’m on the Ivermectin, so - the virus can’t get me, - it’s unique ‘means of function’ mean that I’ll get off Scott-free!
Aye, Ivermectin’s just the stuff, - and vitamin D3: they’ll keep me healthy, sure enough,
- just watch - and lo! - you’ll see,
Though governments have ‘bet the farm’ on vaccines as their ‘saviour’ , GP’s who pledge ‘First, do no harm’
may soon change their behaviour,
For ‘mectin stops the virus’ spread (unlike the vax injection) - it’s users simply cannot shed’ a viral-load infection;

In time, our ‘betters’ will admit this better policy, will make the virus soon submit unto redundancy!
For, when we take such wond’rous balm, the virus is soon beaten, and once again in “State” of calm,
may rest’rant meals be eaten;
But!
For now, the ‘Pow’rs that be’ - alas - see fit to ‘sit and wait’, content to see our loved ones pass,
surrend’ring to their fate,

To ‘risk’ the use of ‘novel’ drugs is not the ‘done thing’ here, - ignoring, with indiff’rent shrugs,
results from far and near;
‘Act not in haste’s their favour’d ploy to stymie clear solutions, though elsewhere, ‘mectin’ soon brings joy, to enlightened institutions:

For everywhere it’s yet been used - the sickness dissipates, and peoples, far too long abus’d, thereafter celebrate!
This ’wonder drug’ that saves so many from such a needless woe, can be roll’d out - for scarce a penny
- to shield against this foe!

Though ‘cheap solutions’ aren’t the way our government would like,
to finally stand up and say: “Oi! Virus - on yer bike!”
No! - Like panicked rabbits, entranc-ed by the scheming, twisting stoat -
Their spendthrift habits seek to buy our costly isles’ “Re-float”,

For, ultimately, we shall pay, in treasure, pain and sorrow, that they may look us in the eye,
deliv’ring ‘bright tomorrow’:-
“That Ivermectin’s just no good - it’s not yet tried and tested!” and so, downgrade our hopeful mood,
- not harm ‘int’rests-in-vested’....

While many now seek jobs anew, as ‘furlough’ help is ending, our creditors enrich a ’few’,
while “New ideas” are trending,
Beguiling youth with tinsel’d pledge, whilst all the while enslaving, and thus deny our young their ‘wedge’
- To satisfy their craving!

And all because they will not see the better way to end, this Hellish mess for you and me, ignoring global trend,
Which daily grows, and recognise the benefits to all - of Ivermectin’s great ‘surprise’
for creatures - great and small;
This worming drug will save our world from Covid’s terror-reign, if only they’d be rather bold,
and spare us yet more pain:
There is no downside to its use, when ‘push’ doth come to ‘shove’, so : ‘Whitty’ - ACT - don’t be obtuse,
- help save the ones we love,
For all around, where ‘mectin’s used, mortality rates drop; now, surely we’re so much abused,
the time has come to stop:
Consider, all, (- well - all who think), this medicine’s advance: pray “Join the dots” before we sink
- let’s Ivermectin “chance”!

One hundred-thousand lives now lost, yet they prevaricate, - what waste of life, the pain, the cost:
there’s little to debate:
Those nations elsewhere lead the way, now we must emulate,
or muddle on, - and rue the day, we changed our minds gey late...
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Is mad cow disease a side effect?
 
Freeforester said:




3 week rollout and it could be all over, rover.

Rhymes for COVID times
I’m on the Ivermectin, so - the virus can’t get me, - it’s unique ‘means of function’ mean that I’ll get off Scott-free!
Aye, Ivermectin’s just the stuff, - and vitamin D3: they’ll keep me healthy, sure enough,
- just watch - and lo! - you’ll see,
Though governments have ‘bet the farm’ on vaccines as their ‘saviour’ , GP’s who pledge ‘First, do no harm’
may soon change their behaviour,
For ‘mectin stops the virus’ spread (unlike the vax injection) - it’s users simply cannot shed’ a viral-load infection;

In time, our ‘betters’ will admit this better policy, will make the virus soon submit unto redundancy!
For, when we take such wond’rous balm, the virus is soon beaten, and once again in “State” of calm,
may rest’rant meals be eaten;
But!
For now, the ‘Pow’rs that be’ - alas - see fit to ‘sit and wait’, content to see our loved ones pass,
surrend’ring to their fate,

To ‘risk’ the use of ‘novel’ drugs is not the ‘done thing’ here, - ignoring, with indiff’rent shrugs,
results from far and near;
‘Act not in haste’s their favour’d ploy to stymie clear solutions, though elsewhere, ‘mectin’ soon brings joy, to enlightened institutions:

For everywhere it’s yet been used - the sickness dissipates, and peoples, far too long abus’d, thereafter celebrate!
This ’wonder drug’ that saves so many from such a needless woe, can be roll’d out - for scarce a penny
- to shield against this foe!

Though ‘cheap solutions’ aren’t the way our government would like,
to finally stand up and say: “Oi! Virus - on yer bike!”
No! - Like panicked rabbits, entranc-ed by the scheming, twisting stoat -
Their spendthrift habits seek to buy our costly isles’ “Re-float”,

For, ultimately, we shall pay, in treasure, pain and sorrow, that they may look us in the eye,
deliv’ring ‘bright tomorrow’:-
“That Ivermectin’s just no good - it’s not yet tried and tested!” and so, downgrade our hopeful mood,
- not harm ‘int’rests-in-vested’....

While many now seek jobs anew, as ‘furlough’ help is ending, our creditors enrich a ’few’,
while “New ideas” are trending,
Beguiling youth with tinsel’d pledge, whilst all the while enslaving, and thus deny our young their ‘wedge’
- To satisfy their craving!

And all because they will not see the better way to end, this Hellish mess for you and me, ignoring global trend,
Which daily grows, and recognise the benefits to all - of Ivermectin’s great ‘surprise’
for creatures - great and small;
This worming drug will save our world from Covid’s terror-reign, if only they’d be rather bold,
and spare us yet more pain:
There is no downside to its use, when ‘push’ doth come to ‘shove’, so : ‘Whitty’ - ACT - don’t be obtuse,
- help save the ones we love,
For all around, where ‘mectin’s used, mortality rates drop; now, surely we’re so much abused,
the time has come to stop:
Consider, all, (- well - all who think), this medicine’s advance: pray “Join the dots” before we sink
- let’s Ivermectin “chance”!

One hundred-thousand lives now lost, yet they prevaricate, - what waste of life, the pain, the cost:
there’s little to debate:
Those nations elsewhere lead the way, now we must emulate,
or muddle on, - and rue the day, we changed our minds gey late...
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You don't have a TV do you FF? 😉
 
...There was an owd eejit from Kerry,
Whose vaccine got stuck on the ferry;
It drove him quite mad
To see Brits feeling glad
- about Brexit - he's sick - but we're merry!
 
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www.medrxiv.org

Efficacy and safety of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine in patients with severe COVID-19. A randomized controlled trial

Background In the search for active drugs against COVID-19, the indications of many have been redirected. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are drugs that inhibit viral replication in vitro and that have been used in several medical centers. Objectives This clinical trial analyzes the efficacy...
www.medrxiv.org www.medrxiv.org

It's a pre-print, so not peer reviewed and a small group (100) but no difference in outcome between ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and placebo in hospitalised, moderatey severe C-19 patients
 
Buchan said:
www.medrxiv.org

Efficacy and safety of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine in patients with severe COVID-19. A randomized controlled trial

Background In the search for active drugs against COVID-19, the indications of many have been redirected. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are drugs that inhibit viral replication in vitro and that have been used in several medical centers. Objectives This clinical trial analyzes the efficacy...
www.medrxiv.org www.medrxiv.org

It's a pre-print, so not peer reviewed and a small group (100) but no difference in outcome between ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and placebo in hospitalised, moderatey severe C-19 patients
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Perhaps I am mis-reading the dosage described in the abstract, but the Ivermectin dosage administered to those with covid seems woefully shy of the dosages used in all other successful trials:


1614184865819.webp < Single 18mg dose






Whereas successful treatment of patients involves 0.2mg per kg body mass daily, for up to five days:


1614185053727.webp < up to five days daily dose of 18mg Ivermectin
 
Freeforester said:




3 week rollout and it could be all over, rover.

Rhymes for COVID times
I’m on the Ivermectin, so - the virus can’t get me, - it’s unique ‘means of function’ mean that I’ll get off Scott-free!
Aye, Ivermectin’s just the stuff, - and vitamin D3: they’ll keep me healthy, sure enough,
- just watch - and lo! - you’ll see,
Though governments have ‘bet the farm’ on vaccines as their ‘saviour’ , GP’s who pledge ‘First, do no harm’
may soon change their behaviour,
For ‘mectin stops the virus’ spread (unlike the vax injection) - it’s users simply cannot shed’ a viral-load infection;

In time, our ‘betters’ will admit this better policy, will make the virus soon submit unto redundancy!
For, when we take such wond’rous balm, the virus is soon beaten, and once again in “State” of calm,
may rest’rant meals be eaten;
But!
For now, the ‘Pow’rs that be’ - alas - see fit to ‘sit and wait’, content to see our loved ones pass,
surrend’ring to their fate,

To ‘risk’ the use of ‘novel’ drugs is not the ‘done thing’ here, - ignoring, with indiff’rent shrugs,
results from far and near;
‘Act not in haste’s their favour’d ploy to stymie clear solutions, though elsewhere, ‘mectin’ soon brings joy, to enlightened institutions:

For everywhere it’s yet been used - the sickness dissipates, and peoples, far too long abus’d, thereafter celebrate!
This ’wonder drug’ that saves so many from such a needless woe, can be roll’d out - for scarce a penny
- to shield against this foe!

Though ‘cheap solutions’ aren’t the way our government would like,
to finally stand up and say: “Oi! Virus - on yer bike!”
No! - Like panicked rabbits, entranc-ed by the scheming, twisting stoat -
Their spendthrift habits seek to buy our costly isles’ “Re-float”,

For, ultimately, we shall pay, in treasure, pain and sorrow, that they may look us in the eye,
deliv’ring ‘bright tomorrow’:-
“That Ivermectin’s just no good - it’s not yet tried and tested!” and so, downgrade our hopeful mood,
- not harm ‘int’rests-in-vested’....

While many now seek jobs anew, as ‘furlough’ help is ending, our creditors enrich a ’few’,
while “New ideas” are trending,
Beguiling youth with tinsel’d pledge, whilst all the while enslaving, and thus deny our young their ‘wedge’
- To satisfy their craving!

And all because they will not see the better way to end, this Hellish mess for you and me, ignoring global trend,
Which daily grows, and recognise the benefits to all - of Ivermectin’s great ‘surprise’
for creatures - great and small;
This worming drug will save our world from Covid’s terror-reign, if only they’d be rather bold,
and spare us yet more pain:
There is no downside to its use, when ‘push’ doth come to ‘shove’, so : ‘Whitty’ - ACT - don’t be obtuse,
- help save the ones we love,
For all around, where ‘mectin’s used, mortality rates drop; now, surely we’re so much abused,
the time has come to stop:
Consider, all, (- well - all who think), this medicine’s advance: pray “Join the dots” before we sink
- let’s Ivermectin “chance”!

One hundred-thousand lives now lost, yet they prevaricate, - what waste of life, the pain, the cost:
there’s little to debate:
Those nations elsewhere lead the way, now we must emulate,
or muddle on, - and rue the day, we changed our minds gey late...
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Lines on the Bold Deliverance, by a loyal Forester, of Queen and Country from the Great Plague of 2019,
By Sir Iver Topaz McTinn, Poet and Tragedian.

It was in the year of God's Grace 2021
That in the Bonnie Highlands a great experiment was begun
By means of which a brave Free-Forester hoped to show
A thing that a muckle bunch of professors inexplicably did not yet know.

His cause was one of the greatest importance to the people,
And he wished to have rung out from every steeple
That unworthy men were manufacturing an unnecessarily-expensive vaccine
And making amounts of money he considered obscene
When in truth a remedy affordable even to the poor
Was to be found behind every stable door.

By this he meant that the stuff you use to worm your cow or sheep or horse
Could stop the virus as if poleaxed in its course
So that no loyal subject need ever fear getting sick
As long as he took a modest dose of this veterinary physic.

And so far this n=2 study has proved beyond any doubt
That in the limited study population of success we may shout,
Though some might say that, given their geographical and social circumstances,
To catch the virus the study population had only the slimmest of chances.

Meanwhile at the universities of Aberdeen and fair Dundee
As well as other seats of learning in England and across the sea
At Heidelberg, and Yale and Stanford and also Harvard
This simple truth has not yet been discarvard.*

So let us hope that soon respectable professors their voices will raise
In glad and grateful songs of thanks and praise
Because our own Free Forester showed them the way
By which to the interests of big business they might say 'Nay'
And in academic purity design adequately-powered trials so robust
That even froward and stubborn nay-sayers their results would trust
The conclusions of which would clearly rout the cowardly deniers
And cause to be lit across glen and mountain victory fires
To celebrate the deliverance of Queen and Country from this most terrible plague
And from so many previous clinical trials whose design and meaning might be described as vague.

But until that comes to pass, let all the people of these Islands take heed
That to maintain social distance there is still an urgent need
And to accept the vaccine as and when invited
is clearly the path to health on which we should be united.
For the evidence on hand at the moment would strongly suggest
That the vaccine, rather than horse-dope, will likely be best
To free Her Majesty's loyal subjects from their current woeful condition
And to lead us on to freedom, and out of perdition.

With gratitude to Sir W.T.McG
(and *Tom Lehrer.)
 
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He thought he could save them
And cure of all ills
Wi' a heapit up haunfu'
O' dug wurmin' pills.


😀 Apologies to all
 
Aye, the uncle of my neighbour fell off a chair while changing the battery in the kitchen smoke alarm, he was concerned about things like that; they took him into hospital and put him into a bed next to a Covid positive patient - you know, like they do; he took the Covid whilst in there, and has died, despite their ‘valiant efforts’.

The widow doesn’t drive.

‘Funny’ how things turn, eh? Never mind the fact that the staff can treat themselves to protect themselves, rightly as they may see fit, as I similarly have, without any problem, but if you are unfortunate enough to need the NHS right now, you may as well be aware of the statistical incidence of people contracting the illness whilst in hospitals, never mind their refusal to treat you with something that can prevent the deterioration into serious illness, and worse.

The jab he got didn’t do a right lot to save him, but that’s a different matter.

Let’s hope the doctors are better at doctoring than prose.
 
The government position now is that:

  • Neither the vaccine nor lockdown will ever eradicate covid
  • Lockdowns kill people
  • Lockdowns are stunting the development of our youth
  • Covid will kill some people every year, just as flu does now


Doubt any of that? Take a listen to the Whitty,SAGE,van Tam position that the P.M. enunciated a couple of days ago: CLICK HERE


The AZ vaccination has been demonstrated to be less than fully effective against SARS-CoV-2 E484K variant. Doubtless other vax-resistant variations will arise over time.

None of which cannot be contained by lockdown. The E484K variant, or other, will very likely pass through your neck of the woods at some time in the future.

Given the reality of our position with respect to known risks and and viable mitigations available, I really struggle to understand ongoing resistance to investing in large-scale RCT Ivermectin testing.

Like Ff, I find the early data compelling. The fact that nation states like Slovakia are pursuing Ivermectin as a covid treatment adds weight.

I do hope those that belittle and seek to quash Ivermectin research suffer nothing more than embarrassment in the future.
 
zambezi said:
The government position now is that:

  • Neither the vaccine nor lockdown will ever eradicate covid
  • Lockdowns kill people
  • Lockdowns are stunting the development of our youth
  • Covid will kill some people every year, just as flu does now


Doubt any of that? Take a listen to the Whitty,SAGE,van Tam position that the P.M. enunciated a couple of days ago: CLICK HERE


The AZ vaccination has been demonstrated to be less than fully effective against SARS-CoV-2 E484K variant. Doubtless other vax-resistant variations will arise over time.

None of which cannot be contained by lockdown. The E484K variant, or other, will very likely pass through your neck of the woods at some time in the future.

Given the reality of our position with respect to known risks and and viable mitigations available, I really struggle to understand ongoing resistance to investing in large-scale RCT Ivermectin testing.

Like Ff, I find the early data compelling. The fact that nation states like Slovakia are pursuing Ivermectin as a covid treatment adds weight.

I do hope those that belittle and seek to quash Ivermectin research suffer nothing more than embarrassment in the future.
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Shock horror absolutely nothing new there that we didn’t know years ago. It’s like we’re stuck in a washing machine on a perpetual rinse repeat cycle. I so do hope this “covid inquiry” gets launched and we finally see just how few people died directly from this vs those who contracted it but had fundamental underlying issues which would have seen them off within 2/3 years.
 
Rasputin said:
Shock horror absolutely nothing new there that we didn’t know years ago. It’s like we’re stuck in a washing machine on a perpetual rinse repeat cycle. I so do hope this “covid inquiry” gets launched and we finally see just how few people died directly from this vs those who contracted it but had fundamental underlying issues which would have seen them off within 2/3 years.
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There’s no doubt that in a world now somewhat removed from the former determining ‘survival of the fittest’ actualité, there were bound to be a fair number of casualties. I’m not so sure though, if the now recently dead might just have felt their contributions to the payroll of the NHS would have entitled them to the care they might have preferred, had they been given the bald facts and a modicum of choice. Still, ignorance is bliss, and doctor knows best, or so they tell me.
 
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