TringSaint
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Mechanical stiffer any day for me!
I have a 7 litre vertical piston press that is great, so long as you have 3 arms or a willing helper!!
Mincer advice please
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I have a 7 litre vertical piston press that is great, so long as you have 3 arms or a willing helper!!
Essexsussex
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Kenwood chef motors at 450w (the a901 older variety I have) compares well to the trespade 8 (300w) and 12 (480w) motor size and the gearing is high quality. Adequate enough. I think the newer kenwoods are more powerful like over 1000w, but no idea what the gears are like.
The kitchen aids are known for burning out for some reason
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That's like a large metal syringe right?
I've actually been gifted a used one by my dad but I've yet to try it out as I couldn't quite work out how I could be at both ends of it at the same time and it seems like one more thing to wash but I might dig it out and try next time
TringSaint
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Like this: Hurricane Sausage Stuffer 5 Litre
Spikelet
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I brought one like this two years ago
It's done a reasonable amount of work now and hasn't had any issues, I'd buy it again
It's done a reasonable amount of work now and hasn't had any issues, I'd buy it again
jthyttin
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The worm screw on mincer should ideally be turning about 80rpm (let's say 50 to bit over 100). Basically no cheap mincer (including the linked Tre Spade) does that. And it's useless to compare claimed motor output, there are so many other things that affect the produce and longevity. Remember the cheap ones are very noisy, to the point you want to use ear muffs while mincing (Tre Spade should be quiet enough).
You're neither going to get (stainless) steel parts, below maybe £500-700 or so. In Chinese crap, stuff that looks like stainless is polished aluminium. And in European machines the worm screw and it's housing are cast iron, plated with tin or some similar stuff. Problem with that is, over time the plating starts to chip off and only thing you can do is replace parts (or accept that your produce might have a piece of plating here or there). Also you must hand wash them, preferably dry soon and coat with parafin oil or similar.
Largest problem is that people tend not to trim the minced meat properly. And because cheap machines lack power/torque, have oversized hole plates (4.5mm is about the largest that can properly cope with poorly trimmed meat, but it needs torque) and poor worm screw to housing fit -> the produce is poor. Sadly the screw to housing fit can only be judged when you have the machine in hand, even though it's one of the most critical qualities.
Like said the cutter can be easily honed with diamond or flat plate and fine emery paper. Try to get curved blade, if possible. Also try to keep the hole plate aligned the same, it helps with the blade. Eventually the hole plate also needs honing. Other wearable parts include the stud in front of worm screw, that goes into the hole plate. In standardized designs, like the Tre Spade linked, you can get replacement parts easily and reasonable cost. In household items you'r probably screwed...
You're neither going to get (stainless) steel parts, below maybe £500-700 or so. In Chinese crap, stuff that looks like stainless is polished aluminium. And in European machines the worm screw and it's housing are cast iron, plated with tin or some similar stuff. Problem with that is, over time the plating starts to chip off and only thing you can do is replace parts (or accept that your produce might have a piece of plating here or there). Also you must hand wash them, preferably dry soon and coat with parafin oil or similar.
Largest problem is that people tend not to trim the minced meat properly. And because cheap machines lack power/torque, have oversized hole plates (4.5mm is about the largest that can properly cope with poorly trimmed meat, but it needs torque) and poor worm screw to housing fit -> the produce is poor. Sadly the screw to housing fit can only be judged when you have the machine in hand, even though it's one of the most critical qualities.
Like said the cutter can be easily honed with diamond or flat plate and fine emery paper. Try to get curved blade, if possible. Also try to keep the hole plate aligned the same, it helps with the blade. Eventually the hole plate also needs honing. Other wearable parts include the stud in front of worm screw, that goes into the hole plate. In standardized designs, like the Tre Spade linked, you can get replacement parts easily and reasonable cost. In household items you'r probably screwed...
Have a look at the Landig Range of Mincers. A little more expensive than the usual rubbish you can buy online but they will not let you down. I am currently using the W100 model.
The W50 and Prostar are both capable bits of kit. As mentioned above these both have aluminium worm screws. The W100 is all stainless.
Give Game Larder by Tarrant Refrigeration a call and they will be able to advise or sort you out.
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If you are around at any of the upcoming Game Fairs then swing by their stand as I will be there demonstrating a lot of the Landig kit.
The W50 and Prostar are both capable bits of kit. As mentioned above these both have aluminium worm screws. The W100 is all stainless.
Give Game Larder by Tarrant Refrigeration a call and they will be able to advise or sort you out.
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If you are around at any of the upcoming Game Fairs then swing by their stand as I will be there demonstrating a lot of the Landig kit.
Essexsussex
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Still confident that the OP won’t get better than a used old school Kenwood Chef and mincer attachment (runs at 60rpm upwards btw) for his budget of up to £150. All parts are still available for the mincer attachment and the machine itself, and it’ll likely be £50 from Facebook marketplace.
Completely agree that for a heavy user this wouldn’t be right but ultimately the OP is moving from a hand operated mincer to something electric.
And then we want to upgrade from a simple electric one to a better one when we process more, or it breaks lol. Buy right, buy once.
Essexsussex
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Smashed my basic electric mincing frozen pollock heads, should have known that was asking too much
I’ve a luvelle one. Bang on your budget if I remember right. I bought it a good few years ago and it’s still going strong. It’ll manage a whole deer no problem, albeit it’s noisy and not as fast as others. But, if I had my money again or when/if it dies, I’d have a Trespade. They’re on another level and so much quicker!
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