BASC, I and others think that they are mistaken.
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Ask the people that are in that money-making business?
Of course they'll say that.
And if you follow that to the letter, you'd need to have it proofed after every removal or refitting.
phillips321
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So will this reduce the cost of sound moderators? As currently they're stupidly expensive for what they are...
Rake Aboot
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Useless
You don’t even need any type of certificate to buy a moderator at present , so why the hell make it an offence to own one without a certificate you are now saying isn’t needed even when it’s being used ??
Stupidity
You don’t even need any type of certificate to buy a moderator at present , so why the hell make it an offence to own one without a certificate you are now saying isn’t needed even when it’s being used ??
Stupidity
Absolute stupidity. Could the shooting organisations that are ment to represent us see what was happening and pointed out it's absurdity. Virtually all PCP air rifles have/come fitted with a moderator.
So if I have a 1/2 UNF oil filter and drill a hole though it I now have a sound moderator.
Utter madness and incompetence or a very cynical ploy not to de licence moderators.
D
So if I have a 1/2 UNF oil filter and drill a hole though it I now have a sound moderator.
Utter madness and incompetence or a very cynical ploy not to de licence moderators.
D
Update: Government tables legislation to deregulate sound moderators in Crime and Policing Bill
This welcome amendment will have the effect of alleviating police firearms licensing departments of a huge and unnecessary administrative burden, whilst allowing legitimate users of sound moderators to buy and sell them.
www.countryside-alliance.org
Still a lot of details to be clarified, notably whether online sales will be allowed or if FAC will have to be presented face to face
Why would it, manufacturing and retail costs remain the same (apart from the two minutes it takes the RFD complete the paperwork
MidlandsPaperPuncher
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If you think our mods are stupidly expensive just take a look at pricing the other side of the pond.
To be fair some of the modern 3d printed designs are far more performant and they aren't cheap due to the process.
It appears the wording will be as such: The concept of a "relevant accessory" has been created, and only applies to those designed for use with section 1 firearms.
Curious as to how this will be intepreted with regards to online sales - will a seller/dealer have to see an FAC/SGC face to face or will the onus be on the buyer to ensure lawful possession?
https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/65033/documents/7901
Curious as to how this will be intepreted with regards to online sales - will a seller/dealer have to see an FAC/SGC face to face or will the onus be on the buyer to ensure lawful possession?
https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/65033/documents/7901
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When they come off ticket will I have 8 available slots to fill 
I bet they'll put a stop to that.When they come off ticket will I have 8 available slots to fill
MidlandsPaperPuncher
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Some forces are already granting like for like conversions of mod slots to other firearms, where others are telling applicants to go fish!
I would do the 141 now and store them with a friendly RFD. As soon as they are removed from licensing the slot will mean nothing.When they come off ticket will I have 8 available slots to fill
Stevie/P
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BREAKING: Lords remove sound moderators from Section 1If that sounds familiar, it's because the Government had previously promised to do it "when parliamentary time allows" – and that time has come.
Yesterday, the Lords accepted a Crime and Policing Bill amendment removing sound moderators and flash hiders from Section 1 licensing in England, Scotland and Wales.
Moderators specifically for Section 1 firearms will still require the user to possess a shotgun or firearm certificate, but the items themselves will no longer be licensed – so no police variation will be needed.
Commencement date is to be confirmed, but the Bill is expected to become law by mid-May. Until then, sound moderators remain Section 1 firearms.
Roger Seddon, shooting campaign manager at the Countryside Alliance, said:"We hope this change will be brought into effect at the earliest opportunity. The immediate alleviation of some of the administrative burden on police firearms licensing departments cannot come too soon, with many forces struggling as things stand."
More analysis to follow
Will deffo hold off on my next purchase then till this comes into effect
If that sounds familiar, it's because the Government had previously promised to do it "when parliamentary time allows" – and that time has come.
Yesterday, the Lords accepted a Crime and Policing Bill amendment removing sound moderators and flash hiders from Section 1 licensing in England, Scotland and Wales.
Moderators specifically for Section 1 firearms will still require the user to possess a shotgun or firearm certificate, but the items themselves will no longer be licensed – so no police variation will be needed.
Commencement date is to be confirmed, but the Bill is expected to become law by mid-May. Until then, sound moderators remain Section 1 firearms.
"We hope this change will be brought into effect at the earliest opportunity. The immediate alleviation of some of the administrative burden on police firearms licensing departments cannot come too soon, with many forces struggling as things stand."
More analysis to follow
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