Heym SR20
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In Germany, being thrown off a shoot for dangerous shooting usually results in suspension of your hunting licence.
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In my experience you get 2 camps here 1 the camp of police groupies and the police can do no wrong and the other who have personally experienced the police if they come to the attention of the police for what ever and I mean what ever. The law surrounding firearms is written down , it seem fair and proportionate, the problem is it not criminal law it s he said she said 51% . The police will make anything into a problem if they choose to, they don’t need firm ground to stand on any and I mean any allegation . It’s civil law and that’s the problem like in a marriage break down both parties claim this and that and it up to the judge to who they believe. Don’t kid yourself the police will remove the certs from anyone for anything they can twist nothing into something . The problem is you can’t get your day in court and the police know this, not many people can risk their home if they lose and can pay £20k costs, I posted a while ago how much police Scotland wasted on firearm appeals it was 100’s of thousands they don’t care it not there money. There was some people claiming it was false it was not. Cert’s being revoked happen all the time all over the country. All you can do is hope it’s not you next . I really wish myself I liked something else as much as I like shooting but I don’t so I just need to hope me ,any of my children or wife don’t get into any arguments with anyone because they can and do revoke certs for anything and I mean anything, even a totally false allegation. The folk that think not me I am a good guy ect. If you come to their attention for anything say a argument in band q over parking , you could loose your cert for that, it’s that simple.
Overlay
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HI Malc 2 ways of looking at it - if someone is responsible and has commercial insurance and certified correct training combined with 6 P’s the risk is hoped to be far lower which is a good thing all round
On the other hand someone could pay out for commercial insurance and with no proper training or logical common sense is a high to possible risk
That is probably is the stance of the police you mess up you are and will be subject to investigation and charged as found and to be frank thats how it should be
That is the dread of everyone person an accident BUT real time there are some morons out there I’ve seen some right goings on particularly on foxing I stopped a guy going to shoot at a fox along a footpath be side a crop field with people at a BBQ the other side of the fence 10 yds away,
a skylined fox with a bungalow behind it - the guy got upset when I stopped him because he said he wouldn't miss I hope everyone works to keeps the risks down to a minimum, but their will always be one who couldn't care a toss or untrained
Benelli m2
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Read on another forum that Devon and. Cornwall are going to increase the cost of a certificate surley they can't do that without government announcement
My experience, an allegation of assault was made against me, I was arrested and my firearms were taken, in the morning, after being interviewed I was released without charge.
I then rang the firearms dept and asked where we go from here, even though I was released without charge (as I hadn't done anything) the firearms team will look into you and your conduct further (no smoke without fire way of thinking)
A well known shooting organisation were no help and I left shortly afterwards, one month later after a few polite calls and this is the important part of the tale, the person who made the allegation was contacted and asked if they had anything further to add,I was told I could come and collect my firearms.
Throughout this, the police were professional and informative as were the firearms staff, when I moved areas I was asked about the incident by the new area feo, having two renewals since, it has never been mentioned again.
My certificates were never revoked, although they were taken during this period and returned to me at the front desk on the day I collected my firearms.
They can’t
fixedwheel
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As @25 Sharps says, D&C cannot set the price, it is for the Secretary of State to do that, see Section 19.2 of https://assets.publishing.service.g...data/file/1042069/Firearms_Guide_17122021.pdf
Oof that's going back some years, your memory is better than mine to remember me! £50/kg for N140 as I recall from that, those were the days....
Lets hope he gets revoked before there is a tragedy...lack of training or lack of common sense?
There you go!
The Firearms Act was brought in, I think you'll find, to protect the Monarchy after what had happened in Russia in 1917
Heym SR20
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Possibly, but much more against the move to home rule in Ireland and the general availability of rifles to the general public, of which a huge number had learned how to use them during WW1.
There was a general unease against the establishment ultimately leading to the general strike. Bolshy workers armed with rifles and machine guns tend to be a little revolting.
A few years ago, a visiting shooter put a bullet through the office window of the local vicar while he was writing a sermon. The visitor was back in Belgium PDQ.
Uncle Norm
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Thank you!
It is sort of amazing. I can see there’s a conceptual line between preventing harm and making sure someone can stand behind the financial consequences arising from causing harm, but it doesn’t seem like a good reason not to require insurance. It’s a lot easier to get a driving license than a FAC and you have to have insurance to drive.
Really?
I didn't need months of expensive lessons followed by a theory test and a practical test in order to obtain my FAC.
Getting a FAC is as easy as falling off a log compared to getting a full driving licence.
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