No stopping dogmatic politicians......why I opposed devolution.

[Druid]

Proposals to license over 500,000 low powered airguns in Scotland will be part of a Scottish Licensing Bill. This announcement was made today as part of the unveiling of the Scottish Government's legislative programme for 2013-14 which states on page 69 that the Bill will "introduce a licensing system for air weapons in Scotland which recognises the need to protect and reassure the public, but which is proportionate and practicable. The Bill will take steps to ensure that only people with a legitimate reason for owning and using an air weapon will have access to them in future".

​discuss.........

 

[long_range_rob]

****s

 

[urx]

populist facile BULLTURD

 

[perdix]

Once again the men in suits have pushed through their own ideals at the expense of the minority

 

[limey]

Thin edge of the wedge
Where will it end?????

 

[lister]

freeeeedom be very afraid
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cheers lister

 

[rick6point5]

Personally I think this will actually in the long term continue the trend of lost knowledge, never to be replaced, i think that many amongst us learnt skills we use now, first associated with our airgun exploits, hunting & field craft from our youth.
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[multiman]

I did sign the petiton agaist this It maks no sence to do this airgun crime is on the decrease in Scotland. It wont effect the criminals anyway!
Its a joke

 

[CWMMAN3738]

No offence to the scots but That **** salmon is about as much use as an old kelt dropping back hopefully hell meet the same end & get flushed out to sea.

 

[perdix]

No offence to the scots but hat **** salmon is about as much use as an old kelt dropping back hopefully hell meet the same end & get flushed out to sea.

There are many that agree with you

 

[Tommo]

Whilst its wholly impractical and almost un-policeable any new air- rifle sold is now (throughout the UK) is dealt with like a shotgun or firearm (I.e they are entered into an RFD's register, and when sold, ID is supposed to be taken - and detail of that ID recorded)

It would be impossible to record all the privately owned guns, so in my opinion their proposal is a waste of time and money. The existing process I think (bought in some time ago - as mentioned above) is the only way forward. These types of things are evolved out of PR focus groups working to appease the general populous for a given political goal (votes).

I think the SNP need to concentrate on the actual implications of devolution and stop using diversionary tactics to take the focus off the immense issues they will face!

T

 

[scrumbag]

Wonderful. More work for the Police licensing teams that are already understaffed and under trained... waste of time and money for no practical gain.

 

[badbob]

united we will never be defeated

be proud to be Irish,Scottish, Welsh, English Cornish and BRITISH,

there`s no telling where we will end up with these fringe politicians with weird ideas.

 

[The deer man]

This might interest some . . . a pity a few politicians haven't read these two reports!

​You might want to pass them on. . .

https://www.facebook.com/NFACANADA/posts/410978105661467

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

 

[Brithunter]

Your assuming that they actually care for the truth!

When in fact it's pretty obvious they don't give a rat's ass about it.

They only care about themselves and their bank balance.

Salmon is just a closset commie like a lot of other control freaks. Although I believe it was the Nazis under Hitler whom introduced the first national firearms register they then used it to confiscate the firearms from the general populace. The officials and frinds of the Nazi party were exempt of course and helped themselves to the best ones.

 

[urx]

I seem to recall reading a tag line on another forum that went
" I watched a film the other day where only the Army and Police had guns, 'Schindlers list' it was"

As for Salmond and Sturgeon ...nowt fishy about them..not
they are fully power crazed ....I so ferverently hope they lose badly and are forced to run away permanently

 

[waterford103]

It's mostly the useless piece of dogpoo MacKasskill who is pushing hard for this ,supported the commie labour lot ,Salmond jus keeps smiling like a wee Scottish buddha and raking in the "gifts" from the likes of Trump.

 

[Moray Outfitting]

And yet - a number on here support - even if only by intimation - the concept of 'good reason'.

Part of what is proposed is really just a logical ( rarely used word in this context admittedly! ) extension of that concept.

Politicians - dogmatic or otherwise - make decisions based on their own views, views submitted to them in a manner that has credence ( rightly or wrongly ) and not least on the basis of what they believe will ensure a further term in office.

They may not achieve desired results immediately - or ever - but concerted and repeated support for various online polls etc is a simple way to convey messages. There is really no excuse for any 'pro' poll to attract less than 10,000 supporting votes. Over time that gets noticed. At present what gets noticed is a few tens of votes pro against tens of thousands anti. Its not fact, depth of coherent argument or any such - its loud voice syndrome.

The NRA USA ( again used with caution as I continue to maintain the US model is not a good fit for the UK ) have a regular and easy to access page whereby voters can easily identify any politician that votes against there interests and they have the will to act on that information. I just dont see that commitment here.

The inertia in the presumption against shooting sports is substantial. Some substantial progress has been made - but only to the net effect of slowing that opposition momentum. It seems there is some will and movement in a direction to be more proactive in defence of our sport - but it is coming very late in the day.

Seems the position remains squarely that each and every one of us as an individual has to take responsibility for what we say and do - in terms of image and further, how vocal we are prepared to be in presenting reasoned factual rebuttal to each and every single attack.

I'm am not referring to mass marches or hard line campaigning, but just a simple resolve to e mail an editor every time something silly gets published, to have ongoing dialogue with your democratic representative and conduct our sport to the highest standard - always. And not least to stop in fighting.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

there are tens of thousand if not more airguns like the old gat sitting about in lofts, garages and sheds forgotten about. This is possibly the stupidest hugely expensive and ignorant idea these idiots have come up with.

If you have to license airguns then these guys might as well get full bore rifles, lets increase gun ownership!

 

[lister]

there are tens of thousand if not more airguns like the old gat sitting about in lofts, garages and sheds forgotten about. This is possibly the stupidest hugely expensive and ignorant idea these idiots have come up with. If you have to license airguns then these guys might as well get full bore rifles, lets increase gun o
wnership!

what a great idea get all airgun owners to apply for fac snp will have heart attacks
cheers lister