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kenbro
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Hi, somewhere you misunderstood, 20 cal can be used for roe in Scotland.
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Cheers for that info, there should have been a ? mid sentence to confirm or deny my incorrectness. It shouldn't take much horsepower to knock over those little spratts!
Lloyd90
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Considering the 6.5x55 has a larger case you’d think it would beat the creed.
I am in process of renewing presently , I have put down for a 6mm / 243 ( the 243 bit though is only for a doner is required ) I will be going for 6 mm creedmore . Fast twist to send lead of over 110 in long high BC and still mag feed in the medium 308 class actions and go down to 70 grain or later while ideal for copper 100 grain or so . Currently i have a 260 and generally run 100 grain copper tTSX but also 120 grain , copper needs impact velocity and the drop 100 grain copper or lighter should do real well , flatter and less windage - It will be my first dedicated night shooting rifle .
They are not thick on the ground on UK dealers racks yet.
Dont be put off by lighter weight copper , so long as you can push them fast enough ( i mention this last point because 223 deer legal copper has been a bit of disappointment for me)
Real world night culling means shooting as many as you can and the lower/ plat trajectory and lack recoil i feel gives some real advantages . I could not get from a 243 like fitting and feeding 100 grain plus copper .
They are not thick on the ground on UK dealers racks yet.
Dont be put off by lighter weight copper , so long as you can push them fast enough ( i mention this last point because 223 deer legal copper has been a bit of disappointment for me)
Real world night culling means shooting as many as you can and the lower/ plat trajectory and lack recoil i feel gives some real advantages . I could not get from a 243 like fitting and feeding 100 grain plus copper .
If it were me being limited, I’d go 30-06.
If you really have to pick one, any in the 6.5mm, 6.8mm, 7mm and 7.62mm will be spot on for anything in the UK. Maybe a slight lean towards 6.8mm, and up, as recommendations are coming out to make .270 the minimum for boar.
which is why the only real option would be 9.3x62, not a grain under 280!
have fun. Whatever you choose will be right.
If you really have to pick one, any in the 6.5mm, 6.8mm, 7mm and 7.62mm will be spot on for anything in the UK. Maybe a slight lean towards 6.8mm, and up, as recommendations are coming out to make .270 the minimum for boar.
which is why the only real option would be 9.3x62, not a grain under 280!
have fun. Whatever you choose will be right.
In which part of the comparison ? There is always many play offs you see . The 6.5 creed is able to take a longer high BC bullet within a medium ( 308 sized action) you cannot do that with a 6.5x55.
Utectok
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It does if you home load and have a modern actioned rifle. I get 3150fps out of mine with a 114gn projectile. Historically the pressures were lower in a 6.5x55 but modern rifles can match a 6.5cm, pressure wise and extra room in the case helps speed wise. Also the 6.5x55 was always designed for longer bullets and the throat even of a standard reamed chamber accommodates the longest bullet you can buy in my experience. It’s a long action but I can’t say that makes any difference.
Most of the modern medium cartridges.308 6.5cm 6.5x55 ect you usually run out of case capacity before serious over pressure signs with recommended powders. Well that’s been my experience.
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Crowstalker
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308 purely for the wide range of ammo availability.
NickJ
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Creedmoor a newer round so going through modern rifles so I gather they can load higher velocity than Swede that is over a century old
Rutland lad
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I do actually have one deer rifle. A Mauser MO3 - but I do have two barrels and have a variation in for a third !
300 WM - fair mild load throwing out 180 grain Barnes TSX and has been used on every UK species without much meat damage. Now reserved for Scottish or UK reds/sika.
A 6.5 x 55 barrel. That’s my ‘go to’ calibre for most of my stalking dealing with muntjac, roe, fallow all the time. It has dealt with reds, but I prefer the Winmag for that. I can also see a clear reaction to shot with 6.5 that I certainly can’t see with WM.
I’m awaiting a variation for a .308 barrel - for what exactly you may ask. Just in case I need it and as the MO3 isn’t made anymore, new barrels will not be made and therefore the flexibility of being able to keep it little used does appeal.
The real advantage of a switch barrel rifle for me is this - I’m always handling the same rifle stock/trigger/scope so I’m familiar with what pressure is needed to do what job etc. so I SHOULD be more accurate.
300 WM - fair mild load throwing out 180 grain Barnes TSX and has been used on every UK species without much meat damage. Now reserved for Scottish or UK reds/sika.
A 6.5 x 55 barrel. That’s my ‘go to’ calibre for most of my stalking dealing with muntjac, roe, fallow all the time. It has dealt with reds, but I prefer the Winmag for that. I can also see a clear reaction to shot with 6.5 that I certainly can’t see with WM.
I’m awaiting a variation for a .308 barrel - for what exactly you may ask. Just in case I need it and as the MO3 isn’t made anymore, new barrels will not be made and therefore the flexibility of being able to keep it little used does appeal.
The real advantage of a switch barrel rifle for me is this - I’m always handling the same rifle stock/trigger/scope so I’m familiar with what pressure is needed to do what job etc. so I SHOULD be more accurate.
260, 6.5 creed , 6.5x55 there aint a heap of difference . other than the creed is built to handle longer for calibre high BC modern bullets. I run 3300 fps with my 260 with 100 grain tTSX , its a shorter barrel built for hunting with a mod fitted and has a faster lead lapped bore . a similar build in 6.5x 55 might well run a tad faster but it would not be a tangible gain , probably get more gains finding a more efficient bullet design ?
Working fine since 1894.
Rutland lad
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I do like the 6.5x55. I think it’s a ‘do nearly everything’ round. Particularly in the UK
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