dave kelly
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would a moderator or a kickstop or both reduce the recoil on my blaser 93k in 7mm-08 as there is some heavy recoil with it. thanks DAVE
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Monkey Spanker
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I would go for just the moderator first as it will have the most effect. It has many other advantages too apart from the recoil bit, ie saves your ears, optics, neighbours sleep, etc... 
Moderator will definately tame the recoil somewhat.
Depending on model chosen and how rifle set up, you may find things irritatingly front heavy - its can be a very subjective thing. Not peered under the butt pad on a Blaser, but common to find a void.
On my Sako 75 I wanted to bring the weight back a little and wasnt too concerned about overall weight. In the stock void I fitted about 150 grams of lead shot wrapped in plastic bags. Ensured it was a snug fit - no rattle, but this also meant the lead was able to move slightly. Any increase in weight will alter recoil profile, but I suspect - and admit pure theory and not something I'm hyped up about at all - that the flex in that lead weight also helps spread recoil impulse. Highly likely by no measurable difference!
Moderator will most likely solve your issue - if not you may want to try the lead shot option before forking out for the reducer.
Good luck.
Depending on model chosen and how rifle set up, you may find things irritatingly front heavy - its can be a very subjective thing. Not peered under the butt pad on a Blaser, but common to find a void.
On my Sako 75 I wanted to bring the weight back a little and wasnt too concerned about overall weight. In the stock void I fitted about 150 grams of lead shot wrapped in plastic bags. Ensured it was a snug fit - no rattle, but this also meant the lead was able to move slightly. Any increase in weight will alter recoil profile, but I suspect - and admit pure theory and not something I'm hyped up about at all - that the flex in that lead weight also helps spread recoil impulse. Highly likely by no measurable difference!
Moderator will most likely solve your issue - if not you may want to try the lead shot option before forking out for the reducer.
Good luck.
sir-lamp-alot
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a moderator will do the job but i think the over looking factor is the pressure when letting a big round off not so much the actual recoil and a moderator will take a massive amount of this out and turn you rifle into a bit of a pussy cat overnight
pw7x57
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I have a couple of friends with R93s they both had their rifles screw cut which reduced the recoil.
Check with your gunsmith before going ahead, unless yours is factory threaded, I'm not sure but I think they paid a bit more than normal for the threading (something to do with the type of metal used in the construction of the barrel).
Someone on this forum with an R93 should be able to confirm.
Paul
Check with your gunsmith before going ahead, unless yours is factory threaded, I'm not sure but I think they paid a bit more than normal for the threading (something to do with the type of metal used in the construction of the barrel).
Someone on this forum with an R93 should be able to confirm.
Paul
A sound moderator would be your answer i used a 270 with out a mod and it kicked alot but after mod was put on it was like a 243 a pleasure to use instead of flinching each time you pull the trigger. As for the mod to get, there are that many on the market maybe you should ask the gun shop you got it from and say what one to get i would go for a stainless steel one .
lyon
lyon
H Dave,
Without a doubt get a mod put on. I had my R93 cut down to 19inches and put a Jet Z on it. 19in doesnt upset the balance as much and its more accurate now (barrel being shorter is now more rigid), actually its ridiculosely accurate to the degree that its almost on par with my Nesika / Kreiger /McM combo that cost 3 time more. The downside is loosing 120fps max (chrono'd it) but easily compensated with creative loading using a faster powder and besides unless your shooting long range its very academic. For real world stalking it just feels spot on now. PS mine is in 30-06.
Best regards
Without a doubt get a mod put on. I had my R93 cut down to 19inches and put a Jet Z on it. 19in doesnt upset the balance as much and its more accurate now (barrel being shorter is now more rigid), actually its ridiculosely accurate to the degree that its almost on par with my Nesika / Kreiger /McM combo that cost 3 time more. The downside is loosing 120fps max (chrono'd it) but easily compensated with creative loading using a faster powder and besides unless your shooting long range its very academic. For real world stalking it just feels spot on now. PS mine is in 30-06.
Best regards
dave kelly
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THANKS FOR ALL THE ADVICE; I WILL TRY A MODERATOR FIRST.AS ANYONE TRIED THE NEW QUICKSILIVER TITANIUM SILENCER REGUARDS DAVE
Richard Parsons
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A muzzle brake will be cheaper than a mod.. and you dont need a variation. As long as sound is not an issue, of course. Just a thought.
Hales Smut
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Anybody tried the true " magnaport " recoil reducer . I know Blaser use them on their rifles and they are allowed to "install " magnaport on other rifles in Europe . There might be other factory approved gunsmiths for Magnaport in Europe .
These small ports, made by electrical erosion, don't change the looks , neither weight or balance of the rifle . Noise ??????
These small ports, made by electrical erosion, don't change the looks , neither weight or balance of the rifle . Noise ??????
Heym SR20
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Before going out and lots of bits and peices to the rifle - some thoughts, based on learning to shoot a 7x65R that weighs less than 7lbs.
1) Make sure the stock is the right length - most rifle stocks are too short, and too short a stock kicks the hell out of you. Add a slip on recoil pad and see what difference that makes.
2) Hold the rifle securely and firmly, with forehand firmly grasping the forend - this really does help to control the recoil and in particular the muzzle flip which is the uncomfortable part of recoil.
3) Suggest that the sniper style of hold using Bipod and free hand just holding the butt is not good for a lightweight rifle - but probably works very well for a heavy barelled rifle with the additional weight of a modertator on the end.
4) Use a lighter bullet weight.
5) Practice dry firing the rifle a lot (use a snap cap to save the firing pin).
6) In the field you won't notice the recoil.
1) Make sure the stock is the right length - most rifle stocks are too short, and too short a stock kicks the hell out of you. Add a slip on recoil pad and see what difference that makes.
2) Hold the rifle securely and firmly, with forehand firmly grasping the forend - this really does help to control the recoil and in particular the muzzle flip which is the uncomfortable part of recoil.
3) Suggest that the sniper style of hold using Bipod and free hand just holding the butt is not good for a lightweight rifle - but probably works very well for a heavy barelled rifle with the additional weight of a modertator on the end.
4) Use a lighter bullet weight.
5) Practice dry firing the rifle a lot (use a snap cap to save the firing pin).
6) In the field you won't notice the recoil.
dave as the guys have said go with a mod had the same
problemb with mine 7m 08 i put a jet z compact on it
best thing i ever done .
problemb with mine 7m 08 i put a jet z compact on it
best thing i ever done .
john.d.m
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Personally I think too much is read into recoil thingy, especially with the general deer sized calibres.
I`d be embarassed to tell anyone I was having recoil problems with my 30-06, or my 458 for that matter.
A good quality rifle that fits well shouldn`t be a problem if it is, get a smaller calibre or a better quality, better made rifle or eat more weetabix
I don`t like suppressors as theres not been one made yet that doesn`t spoil the look of a rifle.
Over here there are 308 and 270 totally supresssed, can buy them in the shops easy as. They basically look like the moderated 410 shotguns that used to be advertised in the back of the Farmers Weekly years ago. UGLY !
I`d be embarassed to tell anyone I was having recoil problems with my 30-06, or my 458 for that matter.
A good quality rifle that fits well shouldn`t be a problem if it is, get a smaller calibre or a better quality, better made rifle or eat more weetabix
I don`t like suppressors as theres not been one made yet that doesn`t spoil the look of a rifle.
Over here there are 308 and 270 totally supresssed, can buy them in the shops easy as. They basically look like the moderated 410 shotguns that used to be advertised in the back of the Farmers Weekly years ago. UGLY !
Offroad Gary
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pw7x57 said:I have a couple of friends with R93s they both had their rifles screw cut which reduced the recoil.
Check with your gunsmith before going ahead, unless yours is factory threaded, I'm not sure but I think they paid a bit more than normal for the threading (something to do with the type of metal used in the construction of the barrel).
Someone on this forum with an R93 should be able to confirm.
Paul
the coating on the r93 barrell is baked on which effectively "case hardens" the outside of the barrell, if your gunsmith has never screwcut an R93 he will have to approach it slightly differently than he would an entry level barrell on an inferior rifle (
)get in past the hard stuff with a 20 thou first cut or it will blunten the tool. thats what i was told when i had mine screwcut.Similar threads
