Whitefront
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And don't forget, many GPs aren't even members of the BMA
Renewal application rejected
- Thread starter Shootgun
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From experience, you are registered with a GP practice. They allocate you a GP.
It seems they can change your GP without informing you, I only found out by chance that my 'registered GP' had retired, and had to contact the practice to find the name of my current GP?!?
Saying that, my online records show my vaccinations from 40 years ago despite being with 3 practices over that time so someone holds the historic records.
It seems they can change your GP without informing you, I only found out by chance that my 'registered GP' had retired, and had to contact the practice to find the name of my current GP?!?
Saying that, my online records show my vaccinations from 40 years ago despite being with 3 practices over that time so someone holds the historic records.
nun_hunter
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It's about passing the buck in a professional capacity. After some previous shootings by Certificate holders the coroner's inquest identified that the police by not insisting on a response from the GP during renewal or grant weren't doing their job properly. This left them little to no option other than insisting on a response no matter how flawed and ineffective it is.
I'm sure this is simply kicking the can down the road to the next shooting and inquest where if identified that the GP didn't follow the "requests" made then the blame lies with them (the police can say "hey we asked them nicely to ensure public safety, we didn't think they'd ignore that") and the current suggestions and recommendations will then need to be enforced. No doubt at the expense of us with certificates.
Royal
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Mine was originally from back to 2012. They wouldn't accept that, and requested either 30 years, or from birth. So had to get it re-done to state they went through paper records.
south-nofolk-stalker
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I read all this and I just sit there and think next time round I won’t bother, I’ve got 4 1/2 years left, if I haven’t killed enough stuff by then I never will!
3 months? is that the life of the certificate or how long before the renewal they suggest that you put it in? Everywhere I have looked says the cert lasts for 6 months...
Makes you wonder what obstacles will be there before us in 4.5 years!
south-nofolk-stalker
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100% unfortunately the way things are going I don’t honestly think it’s gonna get easier that’s for certain!
Next time round that will he the 25 year hurdle and I think I’ll call it a day too much like ball ache, all the good FEO’s will be retired and we will be left with the dregs.
Not good.
Frank Homes
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But you haven't been formally refused so it's just an incomplete application, the easiest way to deal with it is to resubmit with all the information required, which is what they will insist on.
Shootgun
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A renewal application is time sensitive, i only got 7 weeks before my FAC expires, what if i don't get a new GP proforma on time???
The minimum period for renewal is 8 weeks from what I’ve read.. I’ll be submitting mine 4 months ahead. I asked one of the FLO’s on Wednesday during my variation and she recommended 4 months in advance, albeit they’re not struggling…
Frank Homes
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My point is there is no formal appeal for your situation and BASC saying you should do so is bad advice. They should be interceding on your behalf and contacting the Met direct insisting they should accept the application with the proviso that additional elements will be forthcoming. If you run out of time it is ultimately down to you and you have no redress.
ColinJ
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All this tells me is that your Dr can't read. They aren't asked for their opinion, or a recommendation. The form simply asks whether you have been diagnosed or treated for a specific list of medical conditions.
This is why Medcert and Shootcert exist, because numerous Dr's don't appear to be able to read and understand a very simple form.
andy R204
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Looking at possibly putting your firearms into storage with a RFD.I was told by Durham FL that 8 weeks was there cut off point.
I suspect BASC mean that. as there is seems no reason for them to have rejected his applicatioon documents as incomplete, he ask (or appeal to) them to reconsider their decision to insist on his restarting the application process from the beginning.
As far as I can tell, they did not give a very clear indication of exactly what was amiss anyway - so if nothing else asking (or appealing to) them to reconsider would give them a chance to clarify - which in turn would help the applicant get it right next time - if it's found that reapplying is indeed the only way forward.
del.gue
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MY wife is having a problem with her SGC renewal. We moved from Cheshire to North wales about 18 months ago.
For some reason her very early years of her medical records are missing, early 60s upto mid 80s.
(We had been told that medical record transfers between "devolved" nhs trusts can take upto 2 years!!!)
The doctors admin has been very helpful and the doc has had to add a second letter explaining this.
My main point is, with her initial grant the records must have been order. So, 5 yrs later about 23 yrs are missing. Why should that matter??
She was okayed by Cheshire, Who must have granted based on the full record.
Why do they need to go back to birth every time there is a renewal?? 5 or 10yrs...yep ok with that. With the markers that are placed on our medical records there is surely no need for this level of red tape.
Anyway... just waiting to hear from FLO now.
For some reason her very early years of her medical records are missing, early 60s upto mid 80s.
(We had been told that medical record transfers between "devolved" nhs trusts can take upto 2 years!!!)
The doctors admin has been very helpful and the doc has had to add a second letter explaining this.
My main point is, with her initial grant the records must have been order. So, 5 yrs later about 23 yrs are missing. Why should that matter??
She was okayed by Cheshire, Who must have granted based on the full record.
Why do they need to go back to birth every time there is a renewal?? 5 or 10yrs...yep ok with that. With the markers that are placed on our medical records there is surely no need for this level of red tape.
Anyway... just waiting to hear from FLO now.
tim@tcs
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I’m going to disagree with you, his handwriting may be classic gp but he is no slouch. The form at my last renewal may have been a different one from the current one in use. It certainly was before the Plymouth debacle!
I have no reason to disbelieve him. I have no evidence to believe you!
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