palmer_mike
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Tim, it took me literally 5 min of googling to find your address and contact details. I’ll not post them on here but really, those in glass houses………..
Safe safe?
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Morkai
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Im pretty sure most of our homes are more secure than a thinly clad steel framed building that some RFDs house themselves in, all the rifles in a glass case with a 3mm wire through the trigger guard you can just snip.
Alarmed or not, theyll be in and out before any repsonders turn up.
OP, your cabinet is fine.
(Plus RFDs advertise and show pictures all the time)
Alarmed or not, theyll be in and out before any repsonders turn up.
OP, your cabinet is fine.
(Plus RFDs advertise and show pictures all the time)
They know they’re looking for a gun cabinet!
badmolassesaccident
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I got into safes before I got into guns.
Gun cabinets are not high security. They are a slightly larger version of the baked bean tin safes you get at B&Q. If you were to buy a real safe, you could have one the same size as a small ammo cabinet and you would give yourself a hernia trying picking it up and the wall thickness would be measured in inches, not millimetres.
As for the First Rule of Fight Club, we can now say that yes, someone in Bamburgh with magnolia coloured walls at some point in the future will own guns.
Gun cabinets are not high security. They are a slightly larger version of the baked bean tin safes you get at B&Q. If you were to buy a real safe, you could have one the same size as a small ammo cabinet and you would give yourself a hernia trying picking it up and the wall thickness would be measured in inches, not millimetres.
As for the First Rule of Fight Club, we can now say that yes, someone in Bamburgh with magnolia coloured walls at some point in the future will own guns.
badmolassesaccident
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Anyway OP, you asked for reassurance. Sorry, nope - it only looks big enough to hold about 3 guns. Where do you plan to put the other 7 in a few years time?
Len the dog
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Indeed, quoted gun capacity is akin to claimed mileage from an EV, it bears no resemblance to reality.
One thing to watch in Northumbria is that the police have a peculiar test.
I helped a friend fit a cabinet only a couple of miles from you. We used expanding bolts in to the masonry wall.
When the FEO visited, he opened the cabinet, grabbed hold of the top from the inside, braced himself with a foot on the wall and wrenched the cabinet off the wall, talking several cinder blocks with him and leaving a cloud of dust and rubble, much to my friend's wife's amusement!
The cabinet was deemed unsatisfactory.
My friend then got a local builder to put cement in to the wall to make it more solid before trying it again. Builder said he has done several of these jobs.
What I didn't understand is that if the cabinet cannot be pulled off with the door shut, why try with the door open?
I helped a friend fit a cabinet only a couple of miles from you. We used expanding bolts in to the masonry wall.
When the FEO visited, he opened the cabinet, grabbed hold of the top from the inside, braced himself with a foot on the wall and wrenched the cabinet off the wall, talking several cinder blocks with him and leaving a cloud of dust and rubble, much to my friend's wife's amusement!
The cabinet was deemed unsatisfactory.
My friend then got a local builder to put cement in to the wall to make it more solid before trying it again. Builder said he has done several of these jobs.
What I didn't understand is that if the cabinet cannot be pulled off with the door shut, why try with the door open?
So which is it?
Are crooks smarter than I think, or do they require briefing on what a wall mounted safe / gun cabinet looks like?
It has to be one or the other surely?
Jagare
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Thank goodness I live here. gun cabinets 150 kg or over don't need bolting down. True a thief could cut through the sides using a cordless angle grinder but there is very little chance that the door could be prized off in a hurry. I do like the paranoia these post bring out in people.
Marked contrast to a friend of mine who hadn't had time to put the bolts in before the visit.
"Is that cabinet securely fixed?" asked the FEO.
"Yes" replied my friend, with his fingers and toes crossed.
And that was that! No further tests applied.
Heym SR20
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A cabinet from a reputable manufacturer made ti the appropriate British standard and bolted firmly to solid structure is what is required. It helps if it’s position makes it difficult to get leverage and crowbars etc in so as to loosen it easily.
If in doubt have a read of the Home Office guidance notes on firearms security.
No security system will be secure against determined criminals who want and are equipped to break in. They will immediately be adding additional charges of illegal possession of firearms with significant additional jail time to any tariff if and when caught.
The much more immediate concern is whether the firearms are easily accessible to other members of the household or visitors. Inquisitive children or picking up a gun whilst having a domestic are the biggest concern.
If in doubt have a read of the Home Office guidance notes on firearms security.
No security system will be secure against determined criminals who want and are equipped to break in. They will immediately be adding additional charges of illegal possession of firearms with significant additional jail time to any tariff if and when caught.
The much more immediate concern is whether the firearms are easily accessible to other members of the household or visitors. Inquisitive children or picking up a gun whilst having a domestic are the biggest concern.
Len the dog
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This, and placing it somewhere inconvenient that will be a temptation to 'put it away in the morning' after a late foray.
No such place as Bamborough, certainly not in Northumberland!Yes I now know he has a cabinet in the corner of a room, of a house or flat, somewhere in Bamborough.
I think it’s pretty obvious that applies to almost any one of us on here - apart from the Bamborough bit, I’m pretty sure we’re not all from there
Still at least he hasn’t used his real name for his username, that would be silly
We’re you a robber??
Len the dog
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His CV states that he has extensive experience of working in banks and post offices.
You can buy bolt caps off eBay. I use them in my safes.
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