Sika calling?

Our (non hybrid) sika make the same noise as theirs! Joking aside I just search Youtube for 'sika stag whistle' to practice so you are mimicking the actual live deer recording rather than copying a human who might be getting their calling wrong.

Best advice I had for calling was - start quiet, going off to loud/bold/deep can scare off stags as much as bring in a challenger.
 
Afternoon chaps
Been sent a DJ r-25 by friends in NZ, can any of you recommend a video of Scottish Sika calling I could practice squeaking along to?

If it sounds anything like this vid, I'd look at getting a different call 😅



I know someone who carries around a FoxPro with Sika calls...

Scottish Sika are much smaller than the NZ (Manchurian) Sika

 
I have called a lot of Sika in over the years. Not as easy as calling Roe in my opinion.

First of all know your ground, and the beast itself. I have always found its best to be higher. Find a slight hillock and sit down against a good sized tree. Wind in your face, of course.
Set your sticks up and rifle ready. Sika pick up every movement, and when they often come to the call they are suspicious, especially the old stags. I have seen them creep along or down a bank like a cat hunting.

Make the call loud and precise, tailing off at the end. Then wait a good few minutes. Sometimes if a stag is in the area, or your on his patch he will call back. If so call again with the call, then leave it and just watch the area to the side and in front. In fact even behind if you can. I have had stags creep in up wind to see what is going on and also how big a stag I might be.

If you get a chance at a shot, nail the stag in the shoulders. Pound to a penny they will know what you are as soon as you bring the rifle to bare on it. Shoulder shot should put it down, or at least it should'nt run too far.
Finally if a bigger stag twigs you, he will think twice about coming back again. Dont call from the same place, move to another spot nearby. But it is exciting calling them in, and over the years I have had some great moments calling Sika stags in the rut.

I should add that most of my Sika stalking has been in Scotland, for this year about 38 consecutive years, apart from Covid year before last. But I have also shot them for about 7 years in the West country, near Dorchester. To me they are two different animals. Scottish Sika seem to be more on the ball, probably because they dont see so many people, and are disliked by the FC, who wage a continuous campaign against them.

Good luck
 
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where can i clear this up, the NZ deer biologist Cam Speedy says they have deer from lord Montagu , ive seen a video claiming the Ukrainian monsters are from the manchurian sub species?
I have been to NZ but never seen their sika. I understood them to be a mix of strains. However, I have seen Lord Montagu's sika at close hand when I worked for the FC in the New Forest and they have all the traits of Japanese and none of Manchurian.

Ref Caberslash's post - indeed Woburn had multiple strains at times.

When Normal Healey (ex FC Head of Wildlife Mgt) travelled to Japan he was told by the old boys that the dealers used to travel all around the Japan islands and mainland (Manchuria, now parts of Russia and China) and it all got mixed up, if it wasn't already then it has in parks in the UK & Ireland over the years - I know as I've been trying to source control DNA samples!

The parks also were very vague in their record keeping and it seems some experts views on what delineated strains over the years are quite varied.
 
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I have been to NZ but never seen their sika. I understood them to be a mix of strains. However, I have seen Lord Montagu's sika at close hand when I worked for the FC in the New Forest and they have all the traits of Japanese and none of Manchurian.

Ref Caberslash's post - indeed Woburn had multiple strains at times.

When Normal Healey (ex FC Head of Wildlife Mgt) travelled to Japan he was told by the old boys that the dealers used to travel all around the Japan islands and mainland (Manchuria, now parts of Russia and China) and it all got mixed up, if it wasn't already then it has in parks in the UK & Ireland over the years - I know as I've been trying to source control DNA samples!

The parks also were very vague in their record keeping and it seems some experts views on what delineated strains over the years are quite varied.
many thanks
 
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