Tick spot on

[308McTavish]

Hello,
Start of the tick season here, what if any spot on or tablets are you giving your dogs?
Have used mostly used drontal, any better products? Don’t actually like any of the chemicals but with so many ticks early on I don’t think I have a choice.
Thanks

 

[Buchan]

Drontal doesn't work on ticks am most spot ons poor for ticks
Leaves you the collar or the newer tablets like bravecto/simparica/nexguard. "new" one out that doesn't require a vet prescription
Or just pick the ticks off, they don't transmit lyme to dogs and if they fall of in your home, they die because it is too dry

 

[308McTavish]

Cheers yea been just picking them off regularly nice big fat one on her lip last night. Tried the nexguard last year seemed to work for a month or so. Thanks

 

[SimpleSimon]

Spot on treatments are supposedly very damaging to the environment, one of my dogs seems to absolutely hate having it applied as well which has always concerned me a bit... I tend to just pick ticks off her, haven't treated her for years.

But, vet recommended Credelio plus for the new pup. Probably no bad thing having her tick-proof as she's so small and fluffy
Does a lot of internal parasites as well. It's prescription-only, though.

 

[sauer]

What's the " new" non prescription one ?

 

[barbel]

the spot on the back of the neck, sent my cocker crazy, will not do that again, bravecto seems to work, one chewable tablet , lasts 3 mths.

 

[MARKSP]

I have heard frontline pro is meant to be as good as bravecto? Not tried it yet myself

 

[Yorkie]

Hi.
I am a little out of date when it comes to Dogs.

Our Dogs always got an injection from our Vet' to treat for Fleas/Ticks. Seemed effective.

Hopefully @Buchan will chip in and let us know what the are/were and also if they are used by Vets today.

 

[Buchan]

Not sure what you are referring too as I can’t recall any injection for dogs, although there was program for cats. However there is one now as Bravecto is available in injectable form, giving 12months effect v fleas and ticks.

 

[sauer]

Buchan in your original reply you mentioned a new non prescription version did you mean of tablet form ?
If so which one ?

Paul.

 

[Jelen]

Bravecto is prescription only. Sold by VetUK as individual tablets for £19.99. So it's back to the vets.

 

[weblyish]

Not sure what you are referring too as I can’t recall any injection for dogs, although there was program for cats. However there is one now as Bravecto is available in injectable form, giving 12months effect v fleas and ticks.

Any idea what the logical reason is that these treatments stay prescription only

They're not obviously abusable

It's not a safety and handling thing because they literally give them to you to take home

The UK has cheap/free medicine pricing so the diversion to humans is unlikely here compared to other countries

Appropriate dosing maybe? But seems excessive
Just not sure why it's viewed that a vet is essential for this over saying a pharmacist or just OTC

 

[VSS]

Any idea what the logical reason is that these treatments stay prescription only

They're not obviously abusable

It's not a safety and handling thing because they literally give them to you to take home

The UK has cheap/free medicine pricing so the diversion to humans is unlikely here compared to other countries

Appropriate dosing maybe? But seems excessive
Just not sure why it's viewed that a vet is essential for this over saying a pharmacist or just OTC

The issue of pesticide residues entering water courses has long been blamed on agriculture, but recent studies have identified that a major source of the problem is treatments given to household pets, which in urban areas are present in extremely high densities.
On that basis alone, some degree of control over their usage ought to be maintained.

 

[weblyish]

The issue of pesticide residues entering water courses has long been blamed on agriculture, but recent studies have identified that a major source of the problem is treatments given to household pets, which in urban areas are present in extremely high densities.
On that basis alone, some degree of control over their usage ought to be maintained.

And for the tablet form?

 

[VSS]

And for the tablet form?

I don't suppose it makes any difference what form it's in. It's still going to be excreted from the animal.

 

[Buchan]

Buchan in your original reply you mentioned a new non prescription version did you mean of tablet form ?
If so which one ?

Paul.

Had to look it up - Frontpro. Still needs a prescription, just not a vet one, so you can probably get it on line

 

[Buchan]

Any idea what the logical reason is that these treatments stay prescription only

They're not obviously abusable

It's not a safety and handling thing because they literally give them to you to take home

The UK has cheap/free medicine pricing so the diversion to humans is unlikely here compared to other countries

Appropriate dosing maybe? But seems excessive
Just not sure why it's viewed that a vet is essential for this over saying a pharmacist or just OTC

Logic is often a stranger to medicine licensing. They are new products, so have to be POM-V - vet only. But it's changing and I fully expect Bravecto to go over the counter.
However as VSS states, there is a problem with all of out parasiticides that has been neglected for too long - that of environmental impact on invertebrates (and indirectly to insect eaters like birds). Because of illogical rules, pet parasiticides are not tested for environmental impact and masses of it is used. Too frequently too. The tablets ones are mostly excreted in poo, but they last a long time in soil and are probably very harmful
Frankly all flea/wormers should be vet controlled, or at the very least you have to speak to a person about use. It's too easy to get hold of these poisons.

 

[jsimpson]

Hello,
Start of the tick season here, what if any spot on or tablets are you giving your dogs?
Have used mostly used drontal, any better products? Don’t actually like any of the chemicals but with so many ticks early on I don’t think I have a choice.
Thanks

Hi
I use Seresto collars on my working dogs. They work for at least 6 months and don't even allow the ticks to attach. Used them for years without failure

 

[Yorkie]

Not sure what you are referring too as I can’t recall any injection for dogs, although there was program for cats. However there is one now as Bravecto is available in injectable form, giving 12months effect v fleas and ticks.

Hi Buchan.
Thanks for replying.
I can't for the life in me remember what the product was called. It was definately injected by the Vet' though for Flea control. It did not kill existing Fleas but stopped any eggs hatching so broke the cycle so to speak.
I am going back at least 20 years now as it was for my Yorkie Terrier, which for reasons i do not know, seemed prone to Fleas. My Spanial however, never seemed to get them.
Would it have been something similar to the product in the link?

Flea injections for cats and dogs - Itch Pet | Itch Pet

Is a flea injection the right treatment for your pet? Find out here

www.itchpet.com

 

[Buchan]

Hi Buchan.
Thanks for replying.
I can't for the life in me remember what the product was called. It was definately injected by the Vet' though for Flea control. It did not kill existing Fleas but stopped any eggs hatching so broke the cycle so to speak.
I am going back at least 20 years now as it was for my Yorkie Terrier, which for reasons i do not know, seemed prone to Fleas. My Spanial however, never seemed to get them.
Would it have been something similar to the product in the link?

Flea injections for cats and dogs - Itch Pet | Itch Pet

Is a flea injection the right treatment for your pet? Find out here

www.itchpet.com

There is the product, as described on that link - lufenoron - that stops fleas eggs hatching. Tablets for dogs, liquid or injection for cats. I'm not aware of an injectable form for dogs. So your vet's either gone off licence (allowed back then) or given a steroid injection and then prescribed tablets. The Itch Pet site seems to suggest it's for dogs, but it is a site designed to sell their version of frontline, even if you don't need it, so I regarded it with scorn!