Tick spot on

[AGR]

The issue of pesticide residues entering water courses has long been blamed on agriculture, but recent studies have identified that a major source of the problem is treatments given to household pets, which in urban areas are present in extremely high densities.
On that basis alone, some degree of control over their usage ought to be maintained.

Fiprinol has I believe, been banned in Switzerland now. Apparently it's more deadly when released into water. A vet on Exmoor has done extensive research and was responsible for the Swiss ban.

 

[Yorkie]

There is the product, as described on that link - lufenoron - that stops fleas eggs hatching. Tablets for dogs, liquid or injection for cats. I'm not aware of an injectable form for dogs. So your vet's either gone off licence (allowed back then) or given a steroid injection and then prescribed tablets. The Itch Pet site seems to suggest it's for dogs, but it is a site designed to sell their version of frontline, even if you don't need it, so I regarded it with scorn!

Hi Buchan.
Than you for trying to help me out.

I wish i could remember the name of the product they injected him with. Am i correct in remembering the drug prevented the flea developing the little beak that they use to get out of the egg, hence trapping them?

He did not react well to the sprays or the back of the neck drops. They made him quite poorly. I think this is why we resorted to injection.
I did say 20 years ago, it is actually more like 25 or more.

I had a pretty good relationship with my Vet' back then. They were old school. He started practicing in Hebden Bridge in 1981. He ended up with four practices and made a fortune when he sold out to one of the 'big boys'.

 

[jall55]

Drontal doesn't work on ticks am most spot ons poor for ticks
Leaves you the collar or the newer tablets like bravecto/simparica/nexguard. "new" one out that doesn't require a vet prescription
Or just pick the ticks off, they don't transmit lyme to dogs and if they fall of in your home, they die because it is too dry

Ticks dont transmit lyme to dogs ?
Are you sure ? I think they do

 

[Buchan]

Hi Buchan.
Than you for trying to help me out.

I wish i could remember the name of the product they injected him with. Am i correct in remembering the drug prevented the flea developing the little beak that they use to get out of the egg, hence trapping them?

He did not react well to the sprays or the back of the neck drops. They made him quite poorly. I think this is why we resorted to injection.
I did say 20 years ago, it is actually more like 25 or more.

I had a pretty good relationship with my Vet' back then. They were old school. He started practicing in Hebden Bridge in 1981. He ended up with four practices and made a fortune when he sold out to one of the 'big boys'.

I think I know your vet! It must have been program, that's an accurate description of how it works

 

[Buchan]

Ticks dont transmit lyme to dogs ?
Are you sure ? I think they do

Pretty sure. The last consensus for Europe suggested the bacteria affecting dogs isn't common in Europe. Irritatingly I can't find it

 

[308McTavish]

Thanks for all the replies, most ticks so early on in the year, in all my days of working dogs. Never seen so many. Took more off tonight.
Lack of sheep dipping?
More deer?

 

[Jon P]

Ticks dont transmit lyme to dogs ?
Are you sure ? I think they do

I agree with you , have lost one dog with it around 20 yrs ago - blood test confirmed it- have had two others showing symptoms more recently, both reacted well to antibiotics but one did loose some sight and mobility it hips- BCVS do give advice on Lymes in dogs so must be an issue-

People don’t get the blood tests done as they that so long to come back and added expenses, 3 weeks of antibiotics is cheaper and works- my concern would be taking a dog to a vet with symptoms of Lymes disease and vet dismissing it as false from personal views- this is how I lost my first dog- vet was very apologetic once results came back positive, but dog had already stopped 7 day course of antibiotics so virus became immune to the the next course- this was a very strong 18 month old Patterdale bitch.

Now I pick a vet who will take on board owners concerns.

 

[Buchan]

I agree with you , have lost one dog with it around 20 yrs ago - blood test confirmed it- have had two others showing symptoms more recently, both reacted well to antibiotics but one did loose some sight and mobility it hips- BCVS do give advice on Lymes in dogs so must be an issue-

People don’t get the blood tests done as they that so long to come back and added expenses, 3 weeks of antibiotics is cheaper and works- my concern would be taking a dog to a vet with symptoms of Lymes disease and vet dismissing it as false from personal views- this is how I lost my first dog- vet was very apologetic once results came back positive, but dog had already stopped 7 day course of antibiotics so virus became immune to the the next course- this was a very strong 18 month old Patterdale bitch.

Now I pick a vet who will take on board owners concerns.

A problem is that a positive blood test, usually antibodies, only really indicates it's been exposed, not that it has the actual disease. It's terribly uncertain and, with concerns about antimicrobial resistance, prescribing antibiotics on the basis of uncertain test, "just in case" is no longer an option.
What's BCVS please?

 

[Jon P]

A problem is that a positive blood test, usually antibodies, only really indicates it's been exposed, not that it has the actual disease. It's terribly uncertain and, with concerns about antimicrobial resistance, prescribing antibiotics on the basis of uncertain test, "just in case" is no longer an option.
What's BCVS please?

RCVS- BCVS was a typo-
I am not saying give a dog antibiotics cos it had a tick on it- I saying give it antibiotics if ticks have been found and showing clinical signs- attached is a quick Google search from RCVS in relating to dogs and ticks, - I believe your stance on totally disputing the chances of a dog getting Lymes Disease could put people’s dogs at risk.

 

[Buchan]

I've looked at the relevant site from the RCVS knowledge base and can't find this, but it is an AI overview. For clarity, I don't dispute that Borellia bacteria can infect dogs, the evidence in the states seems reasonable. The type of bacteria causing disease in the states doesn't seem to be here in the UK so I'd question the diagnosis. That said, it is something that needs watching carefully as disease patterns change rapidly

 

[sakoson]

Drontal doesn't work on ticks am most spot ons poor for ticks
Leaves you the collar or the newer tablets like bravecto/simparica/nexguard. "new" one out that doesn't require a vet prescription
Or just pick the ticks off, they don't transmit lyme to dogs and if they fall of in your home, they die because it is too d

 

[dogman56]

This thread has got be searching....

It would seem that the active ingredient in Credilo and Nexgard are available in differnt products with no prescription needed

Credelio - Lotilaner

NexGard - Afoxloner

No prescription required for the following

Advantage Chewable- Lotilaner

Frontpro - Afoxolaner

Also this US article about effectiveness on ticks - the Americal Lone Star tick

Comparative speed of kill provided by lotilaner (Credelio™), sarolaner (Simparica Trio™), and afoxolaner (NexGard™) to control Amblyomma americanum infestations on dogs - Parasites & Vectors

Background Canine acaricides with rapid onset and sustained activity can reduce pathogen transmission risk and enhance pet owner experience. This randomized, complete block design, investigator-masked study compared the speed of kill of Amblyomma americanum provided by three monthly-use...

parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com

and a study of the Lone Star Tick

The expanding spectrum of disease caused by the Lone Star Tick, Amblyomma americanum - PMC

Ticks are remarkable vectors of a diverse and growing list of infectious agents of importance to both medical and veterinary disciplines. The tick Amblyomma americanum is one of the most frequently identified ticks in the United States with an ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This only my quick search so please use with caution!

Cheers!

 

[Ben_10]

I use CSJ Billy no mates. Best thing It’s a herbal flea&tick. Have used it for probably 2 years now and have found it to be very good. Just sprinkle it onto the food daily and that’s it job done. It’s been very good for are dog. We use nothing else. Just need a week or 2 to get into the system as it’s herbal.

 

[308McTavish]

That’s interesting, has neem and mint herbs, do your dogs eat it no probs? Do you use dry or wet dog food?
Thanks

 

[Ben_10]

Soaked csj biscuit with a bit of meat generally. Yes eat it no problem. It’s only a small amount required and just sprinkle it over and mix it all In. I no a few people who use it not aware of any fussy eaters with it. I would recommend. (Not a paid promotion ) .