Trophy Hunting

Oh they are. Including you.
As you may or may not know not that I care.
30 plus years of my life was working with African and Asian wildlife. I worked with several well known professors in and around the collections I was responsible for. Some at Stellenbosch in SA.
Lowland Gorilla. Giant Sable. Schimiter horn Oryx. The Quagga project. To name a few.
The wildlife of Africa and indeed some parts of Asia rely heavily on conservation and ethically controlled hunting. SCI has put millions into such projects. Many Americans support this system by paying heavily for it. This includes some European hunters.
People in this country who knock over the odd deer and have no idea of what goes on with other hunters around the world need to educate themselves before they start to make comments regarding so called Trophy hunting.
By the way I don't have to lump anything!
Great Answer.
 
I discovered just this week that there is a CIC scoring system for foxes, based on head size. How long until some lad is offering guided fox outings with a great chance of getting a gold or silver ?
Thats been going on a long time!

Its just not as pubic as deer stalking
 
I read an interesting article on the deer stalking UK Facebook group titled "Not so black and white, my Lords" originally in Country Squire magazine.
It spells out "Trophy" hunting in a no nonsense manner.
What is most ironic is the the Very wildlife that the animal lovers profess to care about will disappear without sport hunting and it`s added benefits of habitat protection, funding for anti poaching patrOLs, local infrastructure and employment.
I can’t link it but perhaps some other computer savvy person could?
 
I read an interesting article on the deer stalking UK Facebook group titled "Not so black and white, my Lords" originally in Country Squire magazine.
It spells out "Trophy" hunting in a no nonsense manner.
What is most ironic is the the Very wildlife that the animal lovers profess to care about will disappear without sport hunting and it`s added benefits of habitat protection, funding for anti poaching patrOLs, local infrastructure and employment.
I can’t link it but perhaps some other computer savvy person could?
 
Oh they are. Including you.
As you may or may not know not that I care.
30 plus years of my life was working with African and Asian wildlife. I worked with several well known professors in and around the collections I was responsible for. Some at Stellenbosch in SA.
Lowland Gorilla. Giant Sable. Schimiter horn Oryx. The Quagga project. To name a few.
The wildlife of Africa and indeed some parts of Asia rely heavily on conservation and ethically controlled hunting. SCI has put millions into such projects. Many Americans support this system by paying heavily for it. This includes some European hunters.
People in this country who knock over the odd deer and have no idea of what goes on with other hunters around the world need to educate themselves before they start to make comments regarding so called Trophy hunting.
By the way I don't have to lump anything!
Well said Malc. i have, over the last 30 years been privaliged to hunt in almost 20 countries world wide and the best bit for me is to see how they all manage their wildlife. It is very different in some cases to way we do thing s here. I particularly like the way it works in eastern europe and in many cases is much better than here, Africa has it just right I think and my next adventure will be a bow hunt in Namibia and I will take "trophies". Just to put the cat among the pigeons I would love to see bow hunting in the UK!
Tusker
 

No other article quite sums the arrogance and disingenious motivation of our politicians. Nor their utter disregard for the biodiversity devastation their decisions will wreak.
 
What makes me chuckle about this is the same politicians apologising to various countries for our actions and telling countries what to do when in the empire, yet they are now telling them what to do vis the back door.
sh8t for brains politicians at their finest.
 
For the record, this is how far the Bill has progressed:

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Here is the summation by Trudy Harrison at the third reading and vote in the House of Commons:

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And here is the: Hunting Tropies (Import Prohibition) Bill. That Bill references the EU Annexes A and B found in COMMISSION REGULATION (EU) 2017/160.

You will find Lechwe, Bontebok, Oryx, Zebra and a myriad other common African species included. The management of those populations and environments are funded by hunters.
Not another "STRONG MESSAGE" to the rest of the world ?
 
Just had this email in please see below main content ,I know most of you guys have used Martin and Quest Freight for many years as I have ,I am guessing the pressure is on for them and another obstacle will all now face (very sad affairs ) ,If anyone use's other companies for this service and has recommendations can you please share there details for SD members for the future
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Please note that following the UK Parliament decision to pass a law banning the importation of trophies and the massively heightened current interest in subject, Quest Freight Ltd will no longer handle trophy imports after 30th April 2023.

Any transactions already actioned, or actioned by the end of April, will be seen through to completion including CITIES transactions that may take many months to complete. This will obviously be dependent on when a total ban is imposed. Any applications to be processed will need to be paid for in advance as the ban may come into place whilst CITIES are processing applications.

We will not abandon any shipment that has reached the licence application stage or a full shipment pre alert by this date unless the ban is imposed during shipment/application. If a shipment arrives and is not customs cleared and delivered before the ban is in place all arrival charges will be payable in full including those for destruction or return of the shipment.
Any goods already in process but not arriving until after the 30th April will need to be paid for in full before arrival
 
I discovered just this week that there is a CIC scoring system for foxes, based on head size. How long until some lad is offering guided fox outings with a great chance of getting a gold or silver ?
I saw that some time ago when a CIC measurer showed a “Gold” fox skull. It gave me a giggle. I would shoot about 100 a year and it has never occurred to me to check them as trophies.
 
For the record, this is how far the Bill has progressed:

View attachment 301522


Here is the summation by Trudy Harrison at the third reading and vote in the House of Commons:

View attachment 301523

And here is the: Hunting Tropies (Import Prohibition) Bill. That Bill references the EU Annexes A and B found in COMMISSION REGULATION (EU) 2017/160.

You will find Lechwe, Bontebok, Oryx, Zebra and a myriad other common African species included. The management of those populations and environments are funded by hunters.

Any ideas if there is any scope for this to be amended in lords? Surely CITES regulated all of this anyway.

Seems to be very little noise from BASC, SACS , Scottish gamekeepers about this in the media or elsewhere? Looks like it is just being accepted as a loosing battle.
 
I discovered just this week that there is a CIC scoring system for foxes, based on head size. How long until some lad is offering guided fox outings with a great chance of getting a gold or silver
You can disbelieve this if you like but I’ve got a gold rabbit with a silver fox in its mouth . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Looking into this , annex B seems to cover a fair few things. Black bear are common across the pond and widely hunted. Yet would be off limits..

Think this will have a fair knock on
 
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