Why do goats get people’s goat?

stalker.308

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I’ve been managing and stalking wild goats for a long time. I call it stalking, as although they are not overly wary of people in the same way deer are (because they see a lot of walkers) they take a fair bit of preparation and planning to get in to them safely and get them off safely. Getting good backstops takes some thinking and as simple as coming in from above may seem, it’s really not as simple as that given how steep the ground is and recently the gusting wind trying to push me over!

Outside the rut they make very pleasant eating and the smell out of the rut is not overpowering in the slightest. But there are many stalkers who turn their nose up at stalking them and usually because someone once told them their uncle’s father shot one and he said it smelled.

I’ve taken many people out for their final of the uk 8 - (they’ve done the six deer plus boar) and never had a bad outing. The scenery is so much more stunning than much of the fallow ground I have and the experience really enjoyable.

What surprises me more is the public reaction to goat culling. In the current Rifle Shooter magazine there’s a news piece on a butchers being criticised for selling wild goat meat. What is the alternative, to leave it to rot? I’ve never left one to rot on the hill.

What gets people’s goat about goats? Deer culling is generally an accepted thing and venison is the product, but goats apparently are not meant to be managed or eaten. Elsewhere in the world it’s one of the most consumed meats.
 

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A few years ago I was asked to cull a small herd of ferals. Their nature was to bunch up and go round in circles when a threat was perceived so it wasn’t the most challenging job - except the rutting billy goats which were stinking! Lady FB, being a Londoner, was keen to do a curry with one so I had a 70 mile trip with the most rancid passenger ever in the Jimny; an unpleasantness only exceeded by skinning and butchering said beast - Yuk! Mind you the curry was delicious.
The other “fallen” were keenly sought after by a crowd of Portuguese workers who were here for a year doing work in the local power station - thank god!
Sadly goat shooting is taking a nasty turn where tame goats are being purchased and released to be shot the next day by wealthy, usually American hunters who want an Irish/Scottish or whatever “Ibex” on their wall - gullible eejits all….
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Goat meat is one of my favourite meats when I was younger- don’t get to eat it as much as we used to though. Will have to make the effort to get some more- has anyone done them as burgers? Used to curry most of ours in past .
 
I’ve done my fair share.
If you want a challenge, do a round of golf.
Dumb as bricks, the biggest challenge is finding them, once you achieve that , just pick what you want.
We used to snipe the kids or nannies with a.22, one big billy is enough for anyone
 
I stopped at T Bay to stock up from butchery. They sell good mature mutton, as well as goat. I some kid chops last night. So so do much better than lamb. And good herdwick mutton, again full of flavour - almost beef like in richness.

In the British Isles we seem to have forgotten what good meat tastes like. Instead we go for cheap fast grown meat. Then we have marinate and cover in all sorts of flavourings.

When actually good meat, not overly hung, but properly cooked and rested just is so good. And you don’t need a lot - fill up on veggies - or just eat a little less.
 
I suppose it's because the perception- which I also share- is they aren't wild. At least not in the UK. It doesn't seem like hunting.

Happy to be corrected!
They are wild. More so than fallow, sika, muntjac and cwd. Goats were well established long before those species came to our shores.
The main thing that makes them different - and seemingly less "sporting" to the unenlightened - is that their defence mechanism is not to flee, like deer, but to get themselves into an inaccessible place. For example, halfway up a sheer rock face. Obviously it's relatively easy to shoot them when they're in such a place (provided that you can find a suitable vantage point to shoot them from), but the real challenge lies in extracting the carcass. That's what makes stalking goats so different and so interesting.
 
Its something I would like to do I enjoy eating goat meat id personally say it's better than lamb! I think people think goats are "cute" fluffy little animals, and we shouldn't eat them or they think they all smell like an old billy.
 
I would absolutely love to stalk goat.

Grew up eating them, really miss the meat.

There are goats within a mile or two of some of the ground I stalk, but yet to see one.
 
They are wild. More so than fallow, sika, muntjac and cwd. Goats were well established long before those species came to our shores.
The main thing that makes them different - and seemingly less "sporting" to the unenlightened - is that their defence mechanism is not to flee, like deer, but to get themselves into an inaccessible place. For example, halfway up a sheer rock face. Obviously it's relatively easy to shoot them when they're in such a place (provided that you can find a suitable vantage point to shoot them from), but the real challenge lies in extracting the carcass. That's what makes stalking goats so different and so interesting.

Very interesting - i stand corrected 😀

I think I would really enjoy the hike and challenge of extraction. I'm not sure how I would feel about pulling the trigger.

Would you mind posting photos of the geography/locations? I bet they are stunning!
 
Luckily for me I live in a country full of goats, some great shooting, not as easy as some people make out, average will be 200 out to 454 last time out, steep ground and long walks, deer are easy most of the time unless down south
 
Goat eat is excellent

A big Billy is something I hope to achieve before I’m too bloody old. Would love to shoot one .
 
They aren't considered a big deal here, but I do like eating them.

My best day was 184 out of a block of new pines - using a 22.250 the barrel would have looked like the launch bloom of an ICBM from space. Bought a 223 later that week, and myself and a mate shot +-2000 out of that block over a year.

I believe that goat is the most commonly consumed meat worldwide.
 
They aren't considered a big deal here, but I do like eating them.

I believe that goat is the most commonly consumed meat worldwide.

According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, pork is the most widely eaten meat in the world (36%) followed by poultry (33%), beef (24%), and goats/sheep (5%).
 
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