Wild Venison Market

[Bo Diddley]

We need a Kentucky Fried Venison franchise to sweep across the land, then we won't be able to sell it quick enough......my local game dealer told me anyone not capable of headshots all the time shouldn't have an FAC

 

[Klenchblaize]

We need a Kentucky Fried Venison franchise to sweep across the land, then we won't be able to sell it quick enough......my local game dealer told me anyone not capable of headshots all the time shouldn't have an FAC

Report him to the BDS!

K

 

[Bo Diddley]

Report him to the BDS!

K

I get the impression they don't give a F..... about such things, I'm sure they feel that they have had the best out of the game-dealer trade, 3rd generation I think!

 

[Dave_45]

Dave 45
have they given a reason

How you doing pal ,
No not really , just that he isn't taking any
All head /neck shot beasts as well.
Clean carcasses

 

[Overlay]

How you doing pal ,
No not really , just that he isn't taking any
All head /neck shot beasts as well.
Clean carcasses

Yep all good here mate, hope that doesn’t catch on, things have got a little better hereabouts, but as always won’t count the chickens until they’re hatched.

 

[Dave_45]

Yep all good here mate, hope that doesn’t catch on, things have got a little better hereabouts, but as always won’t count the chickens until they’re hatched.

I hear Ben rigby will be willing to collect, I'll have to enquire

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

Report him to the BDS!

K

What are they going to do??

Absolutely nothing like usual.

 

[devon deer stalker]

We need a Kentucky Fried Venison franchise to sweep across the land, then we won't be able to sell it quick enough......my local game dealer told me anyone not capable of headshots all the time shouldn't have an FAC

Then your game dealer is a complete tool with probably limited deer stalking experience

 

[Bo Diddley]

Then your game dealer is a complete tool with probably limited deer stalking experience

They are not keen shooters that's for sure, they just like everything their own way!

 

[StephenToast]

Report him to the BDS!

K

I was interested in the conference on the 8th of October but couldn't make it.

I spoke to a person that was there and apparantley the BDS chairman said that the BDS didn't want any connection with deer stalking at all because the bulk of their members are fluffy bunny huggers.

Personally, if I had ever been a member of this waste of space of an organisation I'd be boycotting them now. They are basically anti deer management.

 

[VSS]

I was interested in the conference on the 8th of October but couldn't make it.

I spoke to a person that was there and apparantley the BDS chairman said that the BDS didn't want any connection with deer stalking at all because the bulk of their members are fluffy bunny huggers.

Personally, if I had ever been a member of this waste of space of an organisation I'd be boycotting them now. They are basically anti deer management.

I wasn't at the conference either, but I doubt that's what was said by anyone representing the BDS. I will find out.

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

I was interested in the conference on the 8th of October but couldn't make it.

I spoke to a person that was there and apparantley the BDS chairman said that the BDS didn't want any connection with deer stalking at all because the bulk of their members are fluffy bunny huggers.

Personally, if I had ever been a member of this waste of space of an organisation I'd be boycotting them now. They are basically anti deer management.

you are 100% spot-on, I don’t even know why they offer DMQ level one courses!

But it’s just another way of earning a few quid for a charity, hypocrites, the whole bloody lot of them are hypocrites, they want the money from deerstalking and its deerstalking members, but they don’t want to be associated with deer stalking or deer management.

It’s like the dirty little secret swept under the carpet.

 

[VSS]

you are 100% spot-on, I don’t even know why they offer DMQ level one courses!

But it’s just another way of earning a few quid for a charity, hypocrites, the whole bloody lot of them are hypocrites, they want the money from deerstalking and its deerstalking members, but they don’t want to be associated with deer stalking or deer management.

It’s like the dirty little secret swept under the carpet.

The BDS isn't a shooting organisation, and quite rightly so. It was never intended to be. However, their wide-ranging interest in all matters pertaining to deer and their welfare includes sustainable management (ie, culling) by both recreational and professional stalkers.

 

[Precision123]

The BDS isn't a shooting organisation, and quite rightly so. It was never intended to be. However, their wide-ranging interest in all matters pertaining to deer and their welfare includes sustainable management (ie, culling) by both recreational and professional stalkers.

And the BDS have an agreement with the MOD for pretty much all their land!

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

The BDS isn't a shooting organisation, and quite rightly so. It was never intended to be. However, their wide-ranging interest in all matters pertaining to deer and their welfare includes sustainable management (ie, culling) by both recreational and professional stalkers.

You sir are the heavenly light of the deer management world, finding good in all aspects!

Unfortunately and I do wish it was not so, I and a few others are heathen’s and death to the four-legged fuzzy wuzzies

Who are most definitely heading to the great barbecue down south with the naked blondes!

 

[Klenchblaize]

I didn’t renew my BDS membership this year which would have been the 35th. Nothing to do with the singular disconnect that has oft’t been referred to on this site but rather their refusal to supply a high-quality membership card.

I think someone called me eccentric earlier this week. They don’t know the half of it!

K

 

[StephenToast]

I wasn't at the conference either, but I doubt that's what was said by anyone representing the BDS. I will find out.

As I was told the chairman made a point of speaking, even though there was no slot allocated and said that the BDS didn't want to be connected with deer management.

 

[StephenToast]

The BDS isn't a shooting organisation, and quite rightly so. It was never intended to be. However, their wide-ranging interest in all matters pertaining to deer and their welfare includes sustainable management (ie, culling) by both recreational and professional stalkers.

Not any more apparantly.

 

[South West Stalkers]

Correct. There are no wild deer anywhere near here. I kill deer for the sole purpose of producing venison. The more venison I sell, the more deer I'll kill, even if it means travelling to do it.

Like I said, you want to kill them because they are conflicting with human interests, and human ideology of what the countryside should look like, not because they need killing. You could just leave them alone and eventually the population would settle down at a level that the ecosystem could sustain, with periodic peaks and crashes. It wouldn't be pretty, and I wouldn't advocate it in our heavily managed environment, but it does demonstrate that they don't actually need killing. Nature would eventually find a way. But in the meantime, being what we are, we kill them because we're very poor at sharing the world we live in with any species that causes us any degree of inconvenience.

For as long as you can remember there weren't a fraction of the number of deer in the UK as there are now, and there were very few people selling venison even as a niche product. The number of people doing that is rising rapidly, and word is getting about, albeit slowly. It is very easy to sell venison now.
But yes, I agree with you about getting easily recognisable stuff like mince into the mainstream market, but that isn't going to happen without a mainstream marketing campaign by the likes of the levy bodies. And you've still got the issue of consistency - even after going through the mincer an August fallow pricket, a December red stag and a mid-summer muntjac are three totally different products, which is why farmed venison is always going to win in that situation.

I am based in Dorset, abundant deer, game dealers and small food businesses... in my close 30 miles proximity there are at least 3 dealers and 10 small food businesses selling venison.
Certainly not easy to sell!
Just for a bit of market "trial", I offered half a red hind (approx 20 kg net meat), butchered to a high standard, vac packed for £110 and there is not a long queue.
Even someone posted on my original fb post promoting his friend's business
I have a feeling that selling venison "easy" depends on location too?
Also I would be interested what others think about when venison is promoted as a lean, healthy substitution to other red meat, however shoulder, neck, meat from the ribs are minced without any trimming of fat especially fallow and sika?

 

[StephenToast]

I am based in Dorset, abundant deer, game dealers and small food businesses... in my close 30 miles proximity there are at least 3 dealers and 10 small food businesses selling venison.
Certainly not easy to sell!
Just for a bit of market "trial", I offered half a red hind (approx 20 kg net meat), butchered to a high standard, vac packed for £110 and there is not a long queue.
Even someone posted on my original fb post promoting his friend's business
I have a feeling that selling venison "easy" depends on location too?
Also I would be interested what others think about when venison is promoted as a lean, healthy substitution to other red meat, however shoulder, neck, meat from the ribs are minced without any trimming of fat especially fallow and sika?

I think it is the composition of the fat rather than the volume that makes venison more healthy. High in Omega 3, low in Cholesterol etc.

But this is way outside of my knowledge base.