Worrying fall out from Gun trader leak

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Alantoo said:
I think the damage has been done, nothing we are discussing can bring these details/data back...discussing the best way to counter the problem is not going to make it any worse.

One of the original warnings was not to download the hacked file to check if you were on it, because there were versions already laced with malware. Hunting leaks may be running a double bluff by posting the link to a virus riddled file to shooting sites!

Has anybody contacted their FLO with this Hunting leaks site?

Alan
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I'd agree with you. Nothing wrong with raising awareness and trying to safeguard our data for the future.
 
Jon P said:
Issues may arise is you report to the police a stranger knocking your door asking you about your guns and giving you some veiled threats of reprisal for hunting . - Friend of a reliable friend has had his firearms seized by the police as he reported a unknown female who was stalking him over a number months. Due to the fact things may escalate he has had his firearms taken off him until rectified, female has now been tracked down but firearms still not returned.
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Must be more to that story, the firearms security handbook covers what measures are needed for those who have had the fact that they have Guns on the property revealed, confiscation of the guns or revocation is not one of the measures!
 
Could I raise a couple of points?

Firstly, by downloading a file that you know to be hacked data (hacked = stolen), you are illegally processing other individuals' data that you are simply not entitled to, which is an offence under current data protection laws. You are essentially replicating the original offence. Someone else may have stolen it but you are doing the same thing - think about receiving stolen goods. Bear in mind this is an open forum!

For any members, past or present, of Guntrader, you will already have been contacted by the website to let you know that the data breach had taken place. If you want to find out exactly what data of yours has been lost, ask Guntrader! DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE, either from this thread or the Hunting Leaks website.

If you are not a member on Guntrader, you have no interest in downloading the file, so DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE.

PLEASE, if you are aware your current contact data is out there, report your concerns in writing to your FEO, and mention:

1. You have been contacted by Guntrader to inform you that your personal data has been hacked.
2. You are aware that the Hunting Leaks website (give them the URL News – Hunting Leaks) has downloaded the data hacked from Guntrader of individuals that may be identified as being in the shooting community (including you).
3. You are concerned that the Hunting Leaks website owner/operator is supplying this information to anti-hunting supporters/activists and inciting them to contact you. Relevant quote from the webpage: "please do contact as many as you can in your area and ask them if they are involved in shooting animals".
4. You are also concerned that this information could potentially be used by criminals to target you/your property as it may contain shotgun/firearms.
5. Request that the owner/operator of the Hunting Leaks website be investigated immediately with regards to their acquisition and distribution of stolen data of a sensitive nature. Request that the stolen data be immediately taken down.
6. Ask the FEO to pass on your request verbatim to your Constabulary's Cyber Crime Unit and to cc you into the email chain, so that you have a contact in the Cyber Crime Unit.
7. Ask for an incident number to ensure that this issue has been registered.

If we do not raise these concerns officially, no-one will know what the problem is and nothing will change. Time to get on those keyboards!

And yes, Guntrader have told me my current contact data has been hacked.

Also, Admin, would you think about locking this thread to prevent anyone accessing this file?
 
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bfltd0 said:
Could I raise a couple of points?

Firstly, by downloading a file that you know to be hacked data (hacked = stolen), you are illegally processing other individuals' data that you are simply not entitled to, which is an offence under current data protection laws. You are essentially replicating the original offence. Someone else may have stolen it but you are doing the same thing - think about receiving stolen goods. Bear in mind this is an open forum!

For any members, past or present, of Guntrader, you will already have been contacted by the website to let you know that the data breach had taken place. If you want to find out exactly what data of yours has been lost, ask Guntrader! DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE, either from this thread or the Hunting Leaks website.

If you are not a member on Guntrader, you have no interest in downloading the file, so DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE.

PLEASE, if you are aware your current contact data is out there, report your concerns in writing to your FEO, and mention:

1. You have been contacted by Guntrader to inform you that your personal data has been hacked.
2. You are aware that the Hunting Leaks website (give them the URL News – Hunting Leaks) has downloaded the data hacked from Guntrader of individuals that may be identified as being in the shooting community (including you).
3. You are concerned that the Hunting Leaks website owner/operator is supplying this information to anti-hunting supporters/activists and inciting them to contact you. Relevant quote from the webpage: "please do contact as many as you can in your area and ask them if they are involved in shooting animals".
4. You are also concerned that this information could potentially be used by criminals to target you/your property as it may contain shotgun/firearms.
5. Request that the owner/operator of the Hunting Leaks website be investigated immediately with regards to their acquisition and distribution of stolen data of a sensitive nature. Request that the stolen data be immediately taken down.
6. Ask the FEO to pass on your request verbatim to your Constabulary's Cyber Crime Unit and to cc you into the email chain, so that you have a contact in the Cyber Crime Unit.
7. Ask for an incident number to ensure that this issue has been registered.

If we do not raise these concerns officially, no-one will know what the problem is and nothing will change. Time to get on those keyboards!

And yes, Guntrader have told me my current contact data has been hacked.

Also, Admin, would you think about locking this thread to prevent anyone accessing this file?
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Good advice.

I contacted my FLO with the information about the Hunting leaks site as a result of this thread.

If you want Admin to delete the thread it would be best to use the 'Report' button bottom left of any post to ensure they see your request.

Alan
 
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Davee said:
Is it an offence to use data obtain illegally? If so then collect all phone numbers of those that call and photograph everybody who accosts you. There must be somewhere where we could send this information. Does Google collect data on who downloads what information?
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Well if they have the balls to chap my door, they will be meeting the local polis whether they want to or not. I am buggered if I am going to be harassed or intimidated in my own home; they are committing an offence not me.
 
bfltd0 said:
Could I raise a couple of points?

Firstly, by downloading a file that you know to be hacked data (hacked = stolen), you are illegally processing other individuals' data that you are simply not entitled to, which is an offence under current data protection laws. You are essentially replicating the original offence. Someone else may have stolen it but you are doing the same thing - think about receiving stolen goods. Bear in mind this is an open forum!

For any members, past or present, of Guntrader, you will already have been contacted by the website to let you know that the data breach had taken place. If you want to find out exactly what data of yours has been lost, ask Guntrader! DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE, either from this thread or the Hunting Leaks website.

If you are not a member on Guntrader, you have no interest in downloading the file, so DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE.

PLEASE, if you are aware your current contact data is out there, report your concerns in writing to your FEO, and mention:

1. You have been contacted by Guntrader to inform you that your personal data has been hacked.
2. You are aware that the Hunting Leaks website (give them the URL News – Hunting Leaks) has downloaded the data hacked from Guntrader of individuals that may be identified as being in the shooting community (including you).
3. You are concerned that the Hunting Leaks website owner/operator is supplying this information to anti-hunting supporters/activists and inciting them to contact you. Relevant quote from the webpage: "please do contact as many as you can in your area and ask them if they are involved in shooting animals".
4. You are also concerned that this information could potentially be used by criminals to target you/your property as it may contain shotgun/firearms.
5. Request that the owner/operator of the Hunting Leaks website be investigated immediately with regards to their acquisition and distribution of stolen data of a sensitive nature. Request that the stolen data be immediately taken down.
6. Ask the FEO to pass on your request verbatim to your Constabulary's Cyber Crime Unit and to cc you into the email chain, so that you have a contact in the Cyber Crime Unit.
7. Ask for an incident number to ensure that this issue has been registered.

If we do not raise these concerns officially, no-one will know what the problem is and nothing will change. Time to get on those keyboards!

And yes, Guntrader have told me my current contact data has been hacked.

Also, Admin, would you think about locking this thread to prevent anyone accessing this file?
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It would be the single most stupid conviction in history if a court found someone guilty of a data breach due to downloading a list with their name on it after mentioning it several times on an open forum - there is a long list of people who would need to be prosecuted way before anyone could be that was on the list and downloaded the file.

I would recommend the thread is not locked as it seems bugger all is being done by any other organisation so why would it matter that it’s now featured in a link on here? People need to be aware of what details of theirs have been shared.

it would be laughed out of any court in the land.

regards,
Gixer
 
Gentlemen,
I note my colleague has taken some posts off the site. Please also remember that this is an open site , and that anyone can read the contents.
 
Jon P said:
Just be careful what you do, whilst in work last month I got punched in the face and the police were called, police attended at the time, as the only witness was the assailant son who denied the incident happened so no further action was being taken. As it happened whilst in work I had to attend the police station at 7.30 am the following morning to make a statement of the fact. At 8.45 am that morning I received a phone call from my FEO office - who questioned my for 15 mins on the incident and asking me about “are my guns staying locked away in the cabinet” - luckily that is the end of this matter, but if I had reacted and the assailants son said I punched them, I guess I would be fighting to get my guns back right now.
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Your FEO asked

“are my guns staying locked away in the cabinet” ?

That was either a question he HAD to ask or hes not thr brightest button in the pack.
 
Franchi Matt said:
Your FEO asked

“are my guns staying locked away in the cabinet” ?

That was either a question he HAD to ask or hes not thr brightest button in the pack.
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That is what I was asked, I guess it a routine thing they have to do is to make contact with you in case you are still in a rage- I was back in work by the time they rang me and I have no intention of retaliation against him. It is a wake up call though on how quick they will contact you though- this was just prior to the Plymouth incident so was not of the back of that.
 
Any one using this database is breaching the Data Protection Act 2018.

As for the investigations, let's hope it successful, we aren't liklely to hear anything until charges are made.
 
Just had a discussion with the FEO on this - he asked me to e-mail him the webpage the list is downloadable from - so I have, with the worrying statements highlighted…will see what he comes back with.

as I knew he did say that once something is out there it’s basically a done deal, which we all know - it’s just a case of keeping you and yours as safe as you can from these morons!

regards,
Gixer
 
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