Bore Tech C4 Carbon remover

[Shaun O]

I have been using Bore Tech C4 carbon remover for a while with good results. When I wipe the carbon fibre rod to clean it at the end of the session I notice a black residue left on the rag. Could the carbon remover be dissolving the rods?

 

[Jelen]

I have been using Bore Tech C4 carbon remover for a while with good results. When I wipe the carbon fibre rod to clean it at the end of the session I notice a black residue left on the rag. Could the carbon remover be dissolving the rods?

I've noticed the same though not a great amount. I don't notice it after passing a swab wet with surgical spirit through at the end of cleaning.
So maybe it is off the carbon rod. However I've been using the same carbon rod for 3 years now and it doesn't appear affected.

 

[Hunter300]

Couldn’t answer for sure but had the same problem when I first started using bore tech and had been advised then to switch to the actual bore tech rods to avoid “cross contamination”

 

[Hunter300]

Ring Rifle craft and it’s in the mail same day. I understand that they are the sole importers of bore tech products, or so I have heard

 

[DavyG]

I have been using Bore Tech C4 carbon remover for a while with good results. When I wipe the carbon fibre rod to clean it at the end of the session I notice a black residue left on the rag. Could the carbon remover be dissolving the rods?

I’m don’t quite understand your problem. If you use a rod to push a jag or brush through the bore, it’s only normal for the rod to get dirty.
DG

 

[Steff]

I have been using Bore Tech C4 carbon remover for a while with good results. When I wipe the carbon fibre rod to clean it at the end of the session I notice a black residue left on the rag. Could the carbon remover be dissolving the rods?

No, what you are seeing is carbon from the barrel. There is no solvent in this world that can dissolved heavily baked in carbon like we have in our barrels, not even break cleaner. If you had a bore scope you would know what I am talking about.

Especially the first few inches ahead of the chamber is where it collects in the grooves.

You need a bronze brush and (at best) Ballistol with every regular cleaning to stay on top of this.

 

[Steff]

Do the test. Clean your carbon rod and soak a stretch of it with your carbon solvent. Then wipe off after half an hour and inspect your rag.

 

[Shaun O]

Do the test. Clean your carbon rod and soak a stretch of it with your carbon solvent. Then wipe off after half an hour and inspect your rag.

Now that makes sense. I'll give it a go.

 

[Steff]

With all the above said, a bit of a grey streak on your last patch doesn‘t mean that your barrel will be going down the drain.
Use the bronze brush, the faster (more burnt powder) the more intensively, and you‘ll be fine.

Replace your bushes regularly. You will feel less resistance as the brush wears. I buy them by the dozen.

 

[Jelen]

Ring Rifle craft and it’s in the mail same day. I understand that they are the sole importers of bore tech products, or so I have heard

Or Dolphin Gun Company bore-tech-chemicals

 

[CSW]

We're the UK Sporting Agents for Bore Tech.

I'd recommend the Proof Positive Bore-Stix with Nylon brushes for best results.

Eliminator is your catch all cleaner but glad you're getting on well with the C4 Carbon Remover.

Feel free to drop me an email Chris@cswmail.co.uk - Happy to run through all the range with you. If you're coming to the Northern Shooting Show then please drop by - I'll have our full kit there, cleaning rifles!

 

[Steff]

We're the UK Sporting Agents for Bore Tech.

I'd recommend the Proof Positive Bore-Stix with Nylon brushes for best results.

Eliminator is your catch all cleaner but glad you're getting on well with the C4 Carbon Remover.

Feel free to drop me an email Chris@cswmail.co.uk - Happy to run through all the range with you. If you're coming to the Northern Shooting Show then please drop by - I'll have our full kit there, cleaning rifles!

Good to have direct contact. Thank you.

But you should also be honest to your customers. A nylon brush is well suited to foam up a solvent and get some oxygen into the equation to help the solvent do its work. But it should be well understood that a nylon brush does absolutely nothing in terms of mechanical cleaning in a CF bore.

And even C4 applied in the best manner possible will not remove the baked in carbon we find in our barrels. It is only a preparatory measure for getting the bronze brush to do the real work.

 

[BLUEROLL]

Good to have direct contact. Thank you.

But you should also be honest to your customers. A nylon brush is well suited to foam up a solvent and get some oxygen into the equation to help the solvent do its work. But it should be well understood that a nylon brush does absolutely nothing in terms of mechanical cleaning in a CF bore.

And even C4 applied in the best manner possible will not remove the baked in carbon we find in our barrels. It is only a preparatory measure for getting the bronze brush to do the real work.

Is a bronze brush and suitable solvent the only thing that will remove baked in carbon ?

 

[samdk]

Good to have direct contact. Thank you.

But you should also be honest to your customers. A nylon brush is well suited to foam up a solvent and get some oxygen into the equation to help the solvent do its work. But it should be well understood that a nylon brush does absolutely nothing in terms of mechanical cleaning in a CF bore.

And even C4 applied in the best manner possible will not remove the baked in carbon we find in our barrels. It is only a preparatory measure for getting the bronze brush to do the real work.

The Boretech liquids work chemically and do not need the mechanical abrasion of a bronze brush.

 

[CSW]

We're firmly of the belief, the chemical gets everywhere, the brush is a delivery system for it.

 

[NP435]

We're firmly of the belief, the chemical gets everywhere, the brush is a delivery system for it.

I agree, at the point where I runout of current product Bore Tech will be my choice in all forms. I no longer use bronze brushes, the nylon work just fine. Should I fail with a nylon brush and solvent JB Compound and patches. If my post seems a hijack of topic not my intention.

 

[Lancaster]

No, what you are seeing is carbon from the barrel. There is no solvent in this world that can dissolved heavily baked in carbon like we have in our barrels, not even break cleaner. If you had a bore scope you would know what I am talking about.

Especially the first few inches ahead of the chamber is where it collects in the grooves.

You need a bronze brush and (at best) Ballistol with every regular cleaning to stay on top of this.

My barrels must be toast then, they haven't seen a PB brush for 10+ years since I swapped to Wipe Out Patch Out, then it's successor, Tactical Advantage.

 

[paul o']

I done a deep soak plugged the barrel and filled with bore tech copper left it for few hrs then removed the barrel plug it run out green as a pea then push patched it until they were clean . surprized how much the 300 rds outing had left in the MMR barrel.

 

[Steff]

We're firmly of the belief, the chemical gets everywhere, the brush is a delivery system for it.

Chris, I don‘t need to believe and neither do you. Bore scopes are widely available these days.
You will find that your belief is wrong.

 

[samdk]

Chris, I don‘t need to believe and neither do you. Bore scopes are widely available these days.
You will find that your belief is wrong.

Maybe you have a poor/rough barrel!?
None of my guns have seen anything except boretech and the proof positive brushes and rods and I can get all the carbon and copper out with minimal fuss.