Sound moderators

[Macnucator]

I been hearing that the police will be taking sound moderators off firearms certificates, has anyone heard of when this could be happening?

 

[Ruby Tuesday 2]

No I guess their keeping it quiet! ............I'll get my coat.

 

[ashray]

yes as soon as they put night vision on you fac not going to happen.

 

[stubear]

It could happen - it doesn’t really make sense anyway. Have one on an air rifle and you can have it without a licence, but as soon as that rifle is over 12ft/lb it’s a licencable part?

And it’s not like a moderator on its own is dangerous either.

Expanding ammo came off section 5 after all.

 

[Dalua]

Expanding ammo came off section 5 after all.

Yes, but they'd only put that on quite recently - and by mistake.

 

[BLUEROLL]

I been hearing that the police will be taking sound moderators off firearms certificates, has anyone heard of when this could be happening?

My Local RFD has been saying that recently and he apparently got it from the GTA.

 

[EMcC]

Isn't it about time the BASC, the one that fights our corner for firearm users, got a grip and pushed it towards the removal from FC status.
As most do not have serial numbers it would make things a lot easier when deciding to exchange one with your local FD.
It could still be referred to on the Fc when quoting the firearm by just adding the Firearm and a moderator can be used for etc etc.

 

[Liveonce]

Waste of police resources having sound mods on certificate, makes no difference to public safety to label them as firearms.

 

[Tazz]

That Mods are treated the same as a firearm is poorly thought through, wastes police resources, slows down applications and renewals, in the cold light of day they are metal tubes with baffles in them

 

[Bowland blades]

yeah , from my FEO just a few weeks ago ! About time it creates zero extra risk to the public but is required for H&S etc .

 

[Sika98k]

yes as soon as they put night vision on you fac not going to happen.

Ha ! You may well jest but that’s precisely what the numpties are proposing to do over here in Ireland.

 

[White Spider]

It has always amazed me how a short metal tube could be classed as a highly dangerous and sophisticated weapon.

 

[long_range_rob]

It would be a win for the govt too as it would reduce the number of privately held firearms by thousands over night. Obviously it would just be a statistical fiddle but isn’t most political decision based on press headlines.

 

[nic531]

it is an anomaly from the days when the view was that 'silencers' or moderators were only used by assassins and therefore no a good idea for members of the public to have. that view has changed due to the benefits to hearing/noise complaints etc. it has been muted (pun intended) to happen but will probably wait until the next load of changes so as to not use up parliamentary time.

there are a number of weird things due to laws being written by people with little actual knowledge of a subject..... As i understand it, Flash eliminators are subject to licence but muzzle brakes are not..... at least one company makes the same item and boxes them separately 1 as brakes, 1 as eliminators......

 

[3595wilk]

The rumour has some grain of truth. It’s all based on some lobbying by interested parties. See below.

BSSC and GTA campaigning to remove moderators from licences - Gun Trade News

Both the British Sports Shooting Council and the Gun Trade Association have engaged with government departments in a co-ordinated attempt to remove the requirement to put moderators on firearms certificates. Both organisations argue that the law as it stands needs reforming. Moderators are...

www.guntradenews.com

Unfortunately, just because a (junior and out of favour) Government Minister throws out a soundbite, doesn’t mean that it’s going to happen.

It doesn’t make political sense for HMG to be exploring easing firearms legislation (in the eyes of the general public) just as the Coroners report into the Plymouth shootings and the Scottish DA enquiry into the events on Skye, are suggesting the opposite.

SpAds will be making that point very loudly when faced with any such proposal. Plus it will need a change to primary legislation - and even a Statutory Instrument takes time to sort…..something the present incumbents of the Government benches don’t have.

No matter how logical it is, I suspect the optics and timings are all wrong……

 

[Island]

Isn't it about time the BASC, the one of the many organisations that fights our corner for firearm users, got a grip and pushed it towards the removal from FC status.
As most do not have serial numbers it would make things a lot easier when deciding to exchange one with your local FD.
It could still be referred to on the Fc when quoting the firearm by just adding the Firearm and a moderator can be used for etc etc.

Fixed it for you...

 

[big ears]

Go and watch FSC from last night. Good section on it. BASC and an MP making sensible suggestions which will make it easier.
Whether the crap government we have listen is a different matter.

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

yes as soon as they put night vision on you fac not going to happen.

NV is on FAC now in Ireland

 

[3595wilk]

NV is on FAC now in Ireland

Wow. So you would need a FAC to buy a Pard 007 to shoot rats at night even with a low powered/standard air rifle?

 

[cjm1066]

It needs a change in the law so don't hold your breath, but as other have said it crazy bureaucracy that needs reform.