Lost deer

Mungo

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For the first time in a long while, I lost a deer that I knew to be dead. Extremely frustrating.

Head shot on a calm beast, facing away. Couched up in deep heather on more or less featureless moorland. One roe from a group of 3. Saw the top the skull disintegrate and it dropped to shot. Thrashed around on the ground and kicked itself over a little heathery bank so disappeared from view. Kept crosshairs on for 5 minutes, no further movement. Then made a series of stupid mistakes.

First mistake: Took my eye off the spot and turned to follow 2 other deer that had remained in the area. Decided not to shoot them - it was going to get dark soon, and I didn’t want to be extracting all 3 in the dark. Thought I knew where the first had gone down.

Second mistake: sublimely confident I knew where it was, I didn’t immediately go it it. Instead, went back to the truck (only 500m away) to offload rifle and get roe sack. Did mark where I’d shot from, with a direction indicator.

I then spent hours, first in failing light and then in the dark, walking all over the area trying to find it. The two other deer were still there, and hung around until I was almost on top of them. I had a clear view of the area in thermal, and could see the 2 on and off for the next hour - so I’m certain the ‘dead’ one was definitely still dead. I had a both dog and thermal. Several times the dog indicated a strong scent, but seemed to lose it again each time and then get distracted by the foot trace from the live ones.

I am absolutely certain it was stone dead, and that I must have walked within a yard or two of it multiple times. All I can think is that it kicked itself into a hidden gully, under some heather or into a hidden puddle.

This on top of a miss earlier in the day and a miss the day before. Just not a very good weekend 😑
 
Not the same but easily done in standing wheat etc so I know your pain. Once you've lost your mark and don't have something to reference from it can be incredibly difficult to find a lost deer, even when dead.

I can bring the combine up and trim the heather for you?
 
Very frustrating. I've had similar with foxes on totally flat mowed fields where I've shot them, seen them drop, watched them to make sure they're dead, started walking straight to them and then when I got near and got the torch out, nothing. Usually get a message from the farmer the next day asking why I didn't put it in the hedge and left it in the middle of the field 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
For the first time in a long while, I lost a deer that I knew to be dead. Extremely frustrating.

Head shot on a calm beast, facing away. Couched up in deep heather on more or less featureless moorland. One roe from a group of 3. Saw the top the skull disintegrate and it dropped to shot. Thrashed around on the ground and kicked itself over a little heathery bank so disappeared from view. Kept crosshairs on for 5 minutes, no further movement. Then made a series of stupid mistakes.

First mistake: Took my eye off the spot and turned to follow 2 other deer that had remained in the area. Decided not to shoot them - it was going to get dark soon, and I didn’t want to be extracting all 3 in the dark. Thought I knew where the first had gone down.

Second mistake: sublimely confident I knew where it was, I didn’t immediately go it it. Instead, went back to the truck (only 500m away) to offload rifle and get roe sack. Did mark where I’d shot from, with a direction indicator.

I then spent hours, first in failing light and then in the dark, walking all over the area trying to find it. The two other deer were still there, and hung around until I was almost on top of them. I had a clear view of the area in thermal, and could see the 2 on and off for the next hour - so I’m certain the ‘dead’ one was definitely still dead. I had a both dog and thermal. Several times the dog indicated a strong scent, but seemed to lose it again each time and then get distracted by the foot trace from the live ones.

I am absolutely certain it was stone dead, and that I must have walked within a yard or two of it multiple times. All I can think is that it kicked itself into a hidden gully, under some heather or into a hidden puddle.

This on top of a miss earlier in the day and a miss the day before. Just not a very good weekend 😑
As a rule of thumb we generally know exactly what to do just after we haven’t done it
 
For the first time in a long while, I lost a deer that I knew to be dead. Extremely frustrating.

Head shot on a calm beast, facing away. Couched up in deep heather on more or less featureless moorland. One roe from a group of 3. Saw the top the skull disintegrate and it dropped to shot. Thrashed around on the ground and kicked itself over a little heathery bank so disappeared from view. Kept crosshairs on for 5 minutes, no further movement. Then made a series of stupid mistakes.

First mistake: Took my eye off the spot and turned to follow 2 other deer that had remained in the area. Decided not to shoot them - it was going to get dark soon, and I didn’t want to be extracting all 3 in the dark. Thought I knew where the first had gone down.

Second mistake: sublimely confident I knew where it was, I didn’t immediately go it it. Instead, went back to the truck (only 500m away) to offload rifle and get roe sack. Did mark where I’d shot from, with a direction indicator.

I then spent hours, first in failing light and then in the dark, walking all over the area trying to find it. The two other deer were still there, and hung around until I was almost on top of them. I had a clear view of the area in thermal, and could see the 2 on and off for the next hour - so I’m certain the ‘dead’ one was definitely still dead. I had a both dog and thermal. Several times the dog indicated a strong scent, but seemed to lose it again each time and then get distracted by the foot trace from the live ones.

I am absolutely certain it was stone dead, and that I must have walked within a yard or two of it multiple times. All I can think is that it kicked itself into a hidden gully, under some heather or into a hidden puddle.

This on top of a miss earlier in the day and a miss the day before. Just not a very good weekend 😑
Give ukdtr a call find your nearest team here-

 
As i mentioned in the LRF thermal thread, its a handy tool to have in this situation, knowing the exact range from your shooting position and leaving something there, rucksack sticks etc means you can range back to confirm your distance once you think you’re in the area, its amazing how far out you can be, especially when the light has gone.
Ive used it to good effect on a few occasions.
 
As i mentioned in the LRF thermal thread, its a handy tool to have in this situation, knowing the exact range from your shooting position and leaving something there, rucksack sticks etc means you can range back to confirm your distance once you think you’re in the area, its amazing how far out you can be, especially when the light has gone.
Ive used it to good effect on a few occasions.
Yes agree with all of the above, the last couple of seasons I carry bright orange ribbon about 20mm wide in my pocket easy to tie to a tree to “ Mark” the deer or the shot point, we all think we will “ definitely remember “ the spot till 20 minutes later we can’t
 
Its amazing how roe can fall into the smallest hollow and not be found , invisible to eye and thermal. I shot a roe once in forestry which dropped to the shot , went over to pick it up and it was nowhere to be seen. It had dropped into a small hole and was completely hidden , very lucky to find it , bit I'm surprised your dog still couldn't find it.
 
Very frustrating. I've had similar with foxes on totally flat mowed fields where I've shot them, seen them drop, watched them to make sure they're dead, started walking straight to them and then when I got near and got the torch out, nothing. Usually get a message from the farmer the next day asking why I didn't put it in the hedge and left it in the middle of the field 🤦🏻‍♂️
Had the same text but it had been hit by a car as the one I shot was on the other part of the farm lol
Rowed up straw/deep tram lines worst at harvest.
 
At least you can go back and potentially find it in 5 minutes this morning ;)

Just to add to that. If headshot it doesnt kick about, likely you took the top off and it’s potentially still alive

Dog tracking team should realistically have been called out, but there’s no judgment on you with that, we all make our own decisions calls
 
RF on Binos or thermal can be useful sometimes when coupled with the compass on a smart phone and an orange latex glove. Ping the range before shot, mark the bearing down the rifle barrel after the shot before you take it off the bipod or sticks then mark the shooting location with the glove on bush or tree or stick etc. Using the range and back bearing to the glove gets you within a few meters if you are precise with these things.

All that said hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 
Sounds like you where rushing in failing light to me , Dont know your dogs ability but if you dont let them get on and do their thing and figure things out but start pushing them ?
Hopefully you got back on it first thing the following day
Your scent would have been all over the place and its not like there was a good blood trail to pick up on , being it was head shot and went down fast !
I am terrible at finding deer especially when rushing i sept a couple of hours searching for one into dark once I saw it drop to a perfect neck shot . At break of light the dog walked me straight onto it and gave me that certain look the " you seriously couldn't find that one alone without me ?"
 
For the first time in a long while, I lost a deer that I knew to be dead. Extremely frustrating.

Head shot on a calm beast, facing away. Couched up in deep heather on more or less featureless moorland. One roe from a group of 3. Saw the top the skull disintegrate and it dropped to shot. Thrashed around on the ground and kicked itself over a little heathery bank so disappeared from view. Kept crosshairs on for 5 minutes, no further movement. Then made a series of stupid mistakes.

First mistake: Took my eye off the spot and turned to follow 2 other deer that had remained in the area. Decided not to shoot them - it was going to get dark soon, and I didn’t want to be extracting all 3 in the dark. Thought I knew where the first had gone down.

Second mistake: sublimely confident I knew where it was, I didn’t immediately go it it. Instead, went back to the truck (only 500m away) to offload rifle and get roe sack. Did mark where I’d shot from, with a direction indicator.

I then spent hours, first in failing light and then in the dark, walking all over the area trying to find it. The two other deer were still there, and hung around until I was almost on top of them. I had a clear view of the area in thermal, and could see the 2 on and off for the next hour - so I’m certain the ‘dead’ one was definitely still dead. I had a both dog and thermal. Several times the dog indicated a strong scent, but seemed to lose it again each time and then get distracted by the foot trace from the live ones.

I am absolutely certain it was stone dead, and that I must have walked within a yard or two of it multiple times. All I can think is that it kicked itself into a hidden gully, under some heather or into a hidden puddle.

This on top of a miss earlier in the day and a miss the day before. Just not a very good weekend 😑
I hope you find it this morning (if you’re looking)
Otherwise it maybe isn’t as dead as you think?
 
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As i mentioned in the LRF thermal thread, its a handy tool to have in this situation, knowing the exact range from your shooting position and leaving something there, rucksack sticks etc means you can range back to confirm your distance once you think you’re in the area, its amazing how far out you can be, especially when the light has gone.
Ive used it to good effect on a few occasions.
Yup - set up a backpack with reflective strips on at the shot point. Knew the range to within 10m.

So had everything in place: dog, thermal, range etc.

Still didn’t find it…
 
Had the same with a yearling roe doe a few weeks ago, head shot, no more then 60 yds, spent 15 mins looking for it,,my dog found it in 1 minute, 80 yds away under a fallen old tree laid in a very old tractor rut.dead to the shot. Did not let the dog off first as the game dealer takes exception to tenderised venison deliveries. This one had to come home with me.
 
Did you find any paint and pins? Or do you think you just haven’t found the spot where it dropped?

As said, it happens and the fact it bothers you shows you are being professional about it. 👍🏻
 
Had pretty much the same in Austria in 2019 on a Chamois. 300m shot, I saw it drop. Got to where it had been shot, avalanche rubble and billberries. Spent a long time looking for it. It got dark and went back down the mountain. Following morning with tracking dog found it in five minutes. It had fallen into a slot between the rocks and wasn’t visible. It was a few yards from where I think I thought it was.

I also lost a roe a few years ago. Good shot, saw it run then drop. I was above a small cliff and it takes a good 15 minutes to get down to it. Couldn’t find it even with the dog.

Following day searched long and far.

I did find a blood trail with gut contents. Looked like it had been dragged. Then a large pool of blood and hair. And then nothing.

I rather think badgers or a two legged beast had nicked it.
 
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