Lead ban date announced
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If that is the case then the bullet diameter is less than 6.17mm & can therefore be lead cored.
Even if it is not correct, I am sure that it is possible to swage 0.01mm ( less than 4 thou in old money) diameter from factory ‘6mm’ bullets & shoot them safely enough in a .243W. Maybe I should set up a little side business doing exactly that
No-one is going to be able to tell what the diameter of the bullet was after it’s been fired, even if recovered from an animal. It only matters what the diameter of the bullet is before firing & it only needs to be less than 6.17mm to conform so 6.16mm would be legal.
You can't believe the complete incompetence of government depts. Last week we are told that the deer population is exploding and huge cull is needed. Then we have this ruling and nobody in government what is the most common and used deer rifle 243/6mm!
It's beyond total incompetence. Why not say 6.5mm and above and everyone is happy. If we could use 20 cal and above as per the Scottish system then life would be so.much simpler and saves many stakers needing 2 CF rifles.
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It's beyond total incompetence. Why not say 6.5mm and above and everyone is happy. If we could use 20 cal and above as per the Scottish system then life would be so.much simpler and saves many stakers needing 2 CF rifles.
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I shoot 120g copper Sako powerhead Blade X in my Sako 85 carbon light, on reds and sika, never had an issue and they certainly do what it says on the tin.
It’s like when seat belts became compulsory, or not smoking in licensed establishments, it’s now second nature to everyone
Dunwaters
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nobody, but I would expect checks post implementation date, with fines and loss of certs for non compliance.how they going to police it?
Who’s going to stop you buying lead bullets in bulk, between then and now?
Where are you planning to use your hoarded stash?
Time to get reloading
Norfolk Deer Search
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As long as copper shot only goes to the dealer, what I shoot for my own consumption is my own business
Dunwaters
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Because it’s a complete waste of time and effort?
Norfolk Deer Search
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I never left the EU
Everyone’s not happy, just .243 shooters!
timbrayford
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Congratulations to John Swift and the rest of the antis on their successful betrayal of the shooting community.
Yes but would I want to be in the EU because it lets us continue to use lead bullets? No.
Would I want a Rupert Lowe to have a majority in Parliament because he's supposedly said he'd get this lead ban reversed? No.
So whilst folk might wish this, or wish that, because of a single policy issue that aligns with their hopes it can be unwise to then embrace the whole of the rest of what X or Y will give you.
It's like those Germans voting for Hitler because they liked that he said he'd get the trains to run on time. There's more to be considered of what else comes with that single issue.
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Sol
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From a "newbie" that plans on applying here within this year and who Is obviously going too be in the market for a rifle that shoots lead free well, Its slightly concerning because I already know there's going too be a surge of rifles on the market that are being sold in preparation for the ban that likely wont have an ounce of copper shot through them.
The joys of before with lead being the n1 If it was a decently well used rifle that information on what It shoots well would likely be told in passing, but now for the most part that information is useless If Its .243+
Obviously a few mentions here of copper rounds being anything from £60-£120 a box, concerning stuff.
The joys of before with lead being the n1 If it was a decently well used rifle that information on what It shoots well would likely be told in passing, but now for the most part that information is useless If Its .243+
Obviously a few mentions here of copper rounds being anything from £60-£120 a box, concerning stuff.
Brave Echo Niner
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I wouldn't get too hung up on it. Copper has been used by many deer managers for many years, it's well proven and isn't difficult to find a well grouping load with (just like lead some rifles like some rounds and some like others - find what your rifle likes).
Like lead you can choose both expensive and non expensive options, two examples below:
Cheap Non-Lead - PPU Z GROM (£36.20/20rds)
www.henrykrank.com
Expensive Non-Lead - Sako Powerhead Blade (£57.79/20rds)
www.shootingsportsuk.co.uk
Hope that helps,
Ben
Like lead you can choose both expensive and non expensive options, two examples below:
Cheap Non-Lead - PPU Z GROM (£36.20/20rds)
308 Z-Grom 170gr Lead Free PPU Prvi Partizan Rifle Ammunition Pack 100
308 Z-Grom 170gr Lead Free PPU Prvi Partizan Rifle Ammunition Pack 100Rifle ammunition manufactured by PPU (Prvi Partizan)
www.henrykrank.com
Expensive Non-Lead - Sako Powerhead Blade (£57.79/20rds)
Sako .308 Powerhead Blade 150GR TEC - Lead Free (Box of 20)
Sako .308 Powerhead Blade 150GR TEC - Lead Free (Box of 20)Click & Collect now available on all in stock ammunitionDue to licencing restrictio
www.shootingsportsuk.co.uk
Hope that helps,
Ben
Alhamander
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...looking forward to picking up a used-but-brilliant-and-cheap .243 when people start dumping them for no good reason at all 
And let's be honest.
The exemption for .22 Rimfire for target shooting and casual recreational was likely the NSRA and Eley Ammunition who make .22LR ammunition.
The exemption for .22 and .177 air rifles and casual recreational was likely the NSRA and BSA, Air Arms and etc. who make such air rifles.
The exemption for indoor and outdoor ranges was likely the NSRA, the NRA and bodies such as the HBSA and the MLAGB.
And Olympic and Commonwealth Games clay pigeon shooters likely the CPSA.
So what has BASC actually done that has been done because others in fact that are the "governing bodies" of those disciplines done?
No .410" exemption, no exemption for buckshot or slug as presently written into the deer legislation for farmers or crofters, no exemption for lead ammunition for humane dispatch of RTA injured animals, no rimfire 9mm "garden gun" exemption, no blackpowder muzzleloading shotgun exemption.
In fact pretty much nothing is what BASC have achieved in relation to shooting sports (the shooting of live game, wildfowl and woodpigeons) that they can claim exclusively to safeguard.
The exemption for .22 Rimfire for target shooting and casual recreational was likely the NSRA and Eley Ammunition who make .22LR ammunition.
The exemption for .22 and .177 air rifles and casual recreational was likely the NSRA and BSA, Air Arms and etc. who make such air rifles.
The exemption for indoor and outdoor ranges was likely the NSRA, the NRA and bodies such as the HBSA and the MLAGB.
And Olympic and Commonwealth Games clay pigeon shooters likely the CPSA.
So what has BASC actually done that has been done because others in fact that are the "governing bodies" of those disciplines done?
No .410" exemption, no exemption for buckshot or slug as presently written into the deer legislation for farmers or crofters, no exemption for lead ammunition for humane dispatch of RTA injured animals, no rimfire 9mm "garden gun" exemption, no blackpowder muzzleloading shotgun exemption.
In fact pretty much nothing is what BASC have achieved in relation to shooting sports (the shooting of live game, wildfowl and woodpigeons) that they can claim exclusively to safeguard.
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HonestJohn
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Order bullets from the US and ensure you have a working recipe before the rules change, so that you don’t have to test them.
Or give up big game hunting of course, which will please them even more in reducing the number of great white trophy hunters killing beautiful innocent African animals for wall hangers
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