.204 for Roe in Scotland?

[jimbo1984]

Just got in from lamping with my mate 3 foxes in total 2 for him one for me my 7 mm dropped it ok but as we all know it's a very marginal calibre for fox the really amazing thing is my mates 25 06 dropping 2 foxes with ease!!! However we've had a serious chat and are both putting in for 338 win mag for fox as it's only ethical ! Goodnight

 

[Paul at Fechan]

we're talking about .204 on roe Jimbo so wind you neck in thanks. I shoot roe with .223 and 308 mostly. What is interesting is the .223 flattens roe every bit as well as the .308 but any deer with four legs in play can make a run... Nothing shows this better than this video of a roe that had been shot with my .308 and how far it went.

 

[Bigboab29]

Hi Guys,

Been watching this with interest seen as i just bought a 204. So i called the feo and he said that legally he could add deer to a 204 providing a 50gr + bullet is used, however he wouldnt be very keen to do so and would try and come to some other arrangement (such as add deer to another of your available calibres which would be more suited) On that note he said he wouldnt add it to mine due to having 2 more suitable deer legal calibres both conditioned for deer

 

[jimbo1984]

And I'm talking about folks talking crap about things they know nothing of I've experiance with the .204 and am confident with correct shot placement and bullet choice it would kill roe easily , so no Paul I won't wind my neck in THANKS ! You are correct in wahat you said though any deer can run when hit regardless of calibre and I have a good friend north of the border whose experiances with the .223 on roe mirror your own

 

[jamross65]

In my experience with 22-250, 243, 25-06, 270 and 308 chamberings the smaller faster bullets kill deer every but as quickly and cleanly as the slower, heavier ones. No scientific reason offered, just based on how quickly I see them hit the ground.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that with a suitable bullet the 204 will also kill roe sized deer, why wouldn't it? We have been lucky in Scotland to have had the pleasure of being allowed to use centre fire .22 chamberings for many years. I have a 243 that is going to be rebarelled in 22-250 as I've got a good few roe to shoot nowadays and think its the perfect chambering for those deer with a soft point 55grn bullet.

I dont think think the OP has asked a daft question at all and I don't think a response of 'why would you' is much of a reply. He could say, 'well, why not', if its legal.

The damage a small, but extremely fast bullet causes inside the chest of a deer is incredible, far more traumatic than a bigger, slower and tougher bullet. It looks like a hand grenade has gone off inside them, but still with a very acceptable exit hole. I guess that's down to the speed...

I know this is relating to 22-250 so not quite what the OP was asking, but relevant none-the-less for the doubters of smaller calibres.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

And I'm talking about folks talking crap about things they know nothing of I've experiance with the .204 and am confident with correct shot placement and bullet choice it would kill roe easily , so no Paul I won't wind my neck in THANKS ! You are correct in wahat you said though any deer can run when hit regardless of calibre and I have a good friend north of the border whose experiances with the .223 on roe mirror your own

you had a personal go at another member then spin off topic to keep it going... it's not needed

The issue with .204 is bullet and twist though, did a bit of looking and the options available just don't seem to offer much of what you'd need to get the right kind of legal performance.

 

[jimbo1984]

Paul what I said was true wether you think needed or not , however this will be my last word on the subject ,

as rdgards .204 I think with 40 or 45 grain sp it would be adequate however just my opinion and calling it as I see it
atb Jim

 

[palmer_mike]

Paul what I said was true wether you think needed or not , however this will be my last word on the subject ,

as rdgards .204 I think with 40 or 45 grain sp it would be adequate however just my opinion and calling it as I see it
atb Jim

Before telling other members they don't know what they're talking about you might want to check the legal minimum bullet weights for roe in Scotland?

 

[jimbo1984]

Before telling other members they don't know what they're talking about you might want to check the legal minimum bullet weights for roe in Scotland?

Mike you are of course right it is 50 grain min , can't believe I forgot that . The ruger I was using stabilized the 45 gr sp fine
atb jim

 

[JAYB]

Okay the playground is closed. Be warned because it is the last you will get, play nicely or the offenders will be excluded for a week!

John