.22 tracer

[liongeorge]

When I first started to learn about rifles over twenty years ago the keeper I worked with produced a box of .22 tracers to show me where bullets can actually end up.
I'd like to do the same thing with my son because many people don't realise how they recoche (spelling?)
My local gun shop say they don't exist .
Can anyone out there help me find some.

Cheers George

 

[sir-lamp-alot]

i dont think you can buy them any more but they would make a very good training aid or even just a eye opener for many experienced shooter tho especialy as a .22 seems to richoshey (not spelt it right either) off of just about anything

 

[ash243]

in the 1968 firearms act they talk of" any ammunition for military use which consists in or incorporates or designed so that a substance contained in the ammunition will ignite on or immediately before impact; As a tracer rounds are made with a hollow base filled with a pyrotechnic flare material, often made of phosphorus or magnesium they will ignite before impact so the act banned them from public use.

just as a side note from my own experiences with them they don't give a true representation of a bullet in flight as they have to be either larger than a normal round or lighter to accommodate the phosphorus material in the base. hope this helps

all the best ash

 

[liongeorge]

Thanks for your input guys , Ash I'm sure we used to be able to buy them easily in the 80's. As for tragectory etc it does not matter so long as it makes a permanent image onto the brain of the observer as they see what they thought was a safe shot dissapearing over the brow of the hill. I know I can see it myself now some 25 years later.
I think it would be useful for my son to see this, and more particularly a mate of mine who fires off his .22 all the time in situations I wouldn't . He doesn't believe me when I tell him how much they ricoche even off a grassy field.

 

[Muir]

If he won't listen, keep him out of the field! That might bring him around!

Set up a shoot in front of a hill and shoot at some "targets" on the gound at about 30 yards distance . Show him the grooves cut in the sod. If he still ignores the obvious then truly, keep him indoors. ~Muir

 

[marky123]

Hello
You can buy tracer ammo as section 1,its not banned.
MARK

 

[manc-munsters]

As marky123 says, Ash243 is not quite correct.

The quoted section of the 1968 act prohibited the use of incendiary ammunition, NOT tracer

I regularly shoot 303, 7.62x51 and 5.56 tracer at Warcop and Sennybridge ranges. Tracer is usually similarly priced to more normal "ball" military surplus ammo. I have also made up my own 22-250 tracer in the past and that is a real hoot!

22LR tracer is still available. Last lot I saw was on offer from a local RFD and was very expensive. If memory serves me right, I think it was about £20 per box of 50

If a gun shop told me they don't exist, I think I would tend not to be going back again

 

[AndrewT059]

how does these tracers work anyway , never seen it before

 

[Bandit Country]

This is pretty self explanatory .....



From this perspective eveything is fine. When the little coloured dots are getting bigger and apparently moving faster you have some cause for concern....

 

[AndrewT059]

looks good

 

[viking]

Yepp GPMG and a tracer night shoot is much fun and produces some nice effects.
And don't forget that with belt ammo for every round you see there are 5 you don't see, although AA it's 2.
How it works

 

[Heym SR20]

To show ricochets - set up a large tarpaulin 10 yds behind the piece of grass / soil that you are shooting at. Subsonic .22s ricochet very easily - high velocity stuff (eg .17 rimfire) has enough energy to disintegrate on contact with the ground.

 

[BuckarooUK]

You'll get .223 and .308 tracer from peter lawman...just punt his name into the search engine of your choice.

 

[Frax]

Remember them well...as has been said, they show up the ricochet amazingly well. Pretty sure the ones I used to have were from RWS. Try RUAG the UK importers.

Seem to remember setting light to some dry grass with one once

 

[reiver]

I used to use .22 tracer in the late 80's they were made commercially by Eley and we used them in my 1022 as a last round indicator with hi capacity mags when we were shooting 100's of rabbits at night.
I think the last ones i have seen were by RWS but that was a thew years ago.
they are good to watch on a dark night!!! 8)

 

[liongeorge]

Thanks for your help guys , I'm making inquiries in a couple of directions and shall let you know how I get on.
I have to say part of the reason I want to find some is for the fun factor.

Regards George

 

[finnbear270]

tracer

If you were to be found shooting tracer on military ranges as a civilian, you should/would be asked to leave, tracer has no relation ballistically to the usual small arms rounds, they are used only as a guide to create a beaten zone in a real exchange of fire with sustained fire/group support weapons, larger calibre tracer rounds such as 30mm / 50 BMG fired co-axially alongside weapons mounted on vehicles, usually armoured types have a more suitable correlation to the main round being fired, youre pal who can't believe in .22LR being a riccochet (spelled correctly) risk should be left at home, as he is going have a very nasty experience eventually, Steve N.R.A. R.C.O.

 

[rh120]

Yes I remember them hopless in my 10/22 very inacurate. As for the shop that says they don,t exsist I would be going somwhere else for info and maybe take him along to, and as for Mr Rick O,Shea give him a wide berth he is going to come a cropper fly with the crows ect