.22lr Kills biggest land predator.

[robbobsam]

Just found this on an American hunting website.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f33/polar-bear-kill-54763/

Incredible !!!

 

[Muir]

As the forum responses stated, many butchers here use a 22LR to put down cattle and hogs. The butcher I was working with this week shot three extremely large hogs with his Marlin 39 lever gun and Aguila 40 grain HV from a distance of 10 to 15 yards. All three down in about 10 seconds.~Muir

 

[Sunny Days]

Makes slotting the local chicken killing fox look pretty tame.

 

[Tamus]

As the forum responses stated, many butchers here use a 22LR to put down cattle and hogs. The butcher I was working with this week shot three extremely large hogs with his Marlin 39 lever gun and Aguila 40 grain HV from a distance of 10 to 15 yards. All three down in about 10 seconds.~Muir

I'll second that, .22lr to the cranium of pigs and sheep.... Plenty gun. Although, professional slaughtermen tell me nothing slows down a captive bolt like pig fat.

Maybe that's why Boar carry lead so well...:idea:

 

[bambislayer]

How many polar bears have been wounded by .22 bullets I wonder????

Because he is a "native" then it's all rustic and cool.

If he were an oil baron out for the skin he'd get slated!

Funny how some people think .22 - Polar Bear - wow!!!
.222 - Roe Deer or Muntjack - disgracefull?????????

Did he have a trained Bear dog? PBsc level 2? Out of season ticket?

What would have happened if he had just put a hole in it's lug?

 

[Max]

How many polar bears have been wounded by .22 bullets I wonder????

Because he is a "native" then it's all rustic and cool.

If he were an oil baron out for the skin he'd get slated!

Funny how some people think .22 - Polar Bear - wow!!!
.222 - Roe Deer or Muntjack - disgracefull?????????

Did he have a trained Bear dog? PBsc level 2? Out of season ticket?

What would have happened if he had just put a hole in it's lug?

I guess the Polar bear would have been "licking his lips"

 

[ecoman]

Two sides to this one Bambislayer. It could be a 'native' taking the mickey out of the law because he IS one of the minority group - and getting away with it, or he could be a native using the only tool he has for maintaining a subsistence life of which very few of us will ever experience. (Thank goodness).

Wounding a bear usualy creates a response, and unless the bear is startled the gamble is - will it head in the direction of vengeance or will it disappear ?

Whatever way, it's a hell of a gamble and another form of Russian roulette unless the hunter was sure of himself and his technique and willing to risk his life - OR - he was just plain nuts.

Maybe that guy's father or grandfather was doing the same job with a spear and a .22lr is a big step up the line in technology.

I don't like the resulting news fallout from such things as it gets seized by the idiots - who think it's 'cool' - as-well-as those to whom it's just another working day. I sympathise with what I believe you are on about, but perhaps the reality of the incident is mundane and has nothing to do with the resulting hype.

But then - you'll always get brainless thuggery and lets hope that there are no gung-ho, Hooray Henry editions in the North American scene who will poke .22'a out of a snowtrack window, shoot into the wildlife and just drive off.

It brings to mind that semi-tame stag which frequented the caravan snack bar by the tourist stopping point on the South side of Rannoch Moor.

Some absolute moronic B*****ds shot a load of airgun pellets into that poor creature's head and it was found dying in the ditch the next morning. My feelings on that defy description.

 

[david1976]

Theres a video on youtube somewhere of that green laser thingy I think called an ND3 or NR3 and the guy using it shoots a wild boar with a .17HMR!

 

[jamross65]

There is a Highland Cow skull on the wall in the lunch hut on a shoot I go to sometimes. Embedded into the rim of the eye-socket is a .243 bullet. It obviously did not kill the animal and it was shot again with a bigger round. This all took place years ago. The long-winded version is not necessary but suffice to say that about 3mm lower would have resulted in the death of that animal as the bullet would have probably entered the brain through the eye-socket.

It really is a case of getting the bullet in the right place. I would have to assume that with the polar bear the bullet entered the skull through the ear canal.

I friend of mine used to tell me that on his dad's farm when shooting injured pigs, a .22 would often bounce off the skull as it was so hard (again this was a long time ago).

 

[Muir]

I'll second that, .22lr to the cranium of pigs and sheep.... Plenty gun. Although, professional slaughtermen tell me nothing slows down a captive bolt like pig fat.

Maybe that's why Boar carry lead so well...:idea:

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I will say one thing though. I won't go as far as to say these hogs were all dead after the shot. They were bleeding out within minutes though.

AS to the bear shot, from what I know of polar bears (which is damn little) they are an aggressive lot. If he was that close and shooting from behind, he was probably ambushing a marauding bear. Polar bears will often come through villages and military outposts. Perhaps he was making due with his only tools. In which case... damned fine work. JMHO. ~Muir

 

[bambislayer]

Two sides to this one Bambislayer. It could be a 'native' taking the mickey out of the law because he IS one of the minority group - and getting away with it, or he could be a native using the only tool he has for maintaining a subsistence life of which very few of us will ever experience. (Thank goodness).

Wounding a bear usualy creates a response, and unless the bear is startled the gamble is - will it head in the direction of vengeance or will it disappear ?

Whatever way, it's a hell of a gamble and another form of Russian roulette unless the hunter was sure of himself and his technique and willing to risk his life - OR - he was just plain nuts.

Maybe that guy's father or grandfather was doing the same job with a spear and a .22lr is a big step up the line in technology.

I don't like the resulting news fallout from such things as it gets seized by the idiots - who think it's 'cool' - as-well-as those to whom it's just another working day. I sympathise with what I believe you are on about, but perhaps the reality of the incident is mundane and has nothing to do with the resulting hype.

But then - you'll always get brainless thuggery and lets hope that there are no gung-ho, Hooray Henry editions in the North American scene who will poke .22'a out of a snowtrack window, shoot into the wildlife and just drive off.

It brings to mind that semi-tame stag which frequented the caravan snack bar by the tourist stopping point on the South side of Rannoch Moor.

Some absolute moronic B*****ds shot a load of airgun pellets into that poor creature's head and it was found dying in the ditch the next morning. My feelings on that defy description.

I was just taking the p***, I am the last person to pass judgement, hell he could have been in his house poking it out of the bedroom window. It's other peopless reaction that i find amusing.

I know as a kid I thought i could take on an elephant with my bsa meteor

 

[sikamalc]

22 rimmies have taken Lion and also I believe at sometime an Elephant (at least somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember reading it sometime back) Polar Bear with a 22.............. fine but all of these success stories which I do not doubt are called one thing

LUCK!!! and lots of it and sometime in life you have to get lucky, but I wouldnt recommend you try it

 

[ecoman]

"When needs must" - - - - - A very sad story about a young couple who went to stay on their first anniversary in the woodland cabin where they spent their honeymoon. I was told this in Alaska when I stayed with friends who are 'white natives'.

Sounds were heard outside the cabin and it was a mature black bear trying to break in - and making quite a frightening job of it.

The fellow had a .22 but for some reason that was ignored and they climbed up onto the roof for safety, then the man ran off to fetch help when the bear was preoccupied on the other side of the cabin, leaving his wife on the roof.

When he and the rescuers got back his wife was dead and had been used as a meal as the bear had managed to get up there.

Who knows - Maybe a few well-placed bullets might have saved the day. It's said that in the wild places, it's fear which kills you, but I've looked into the eyes of a moose at ten yards down amongst the thick cover on the Kenai peninsula and knew very well that it was only the flick of a brain-switch either way that decided what would happen.
Those moose are moody sods.

It's with some embarrassment that I recall galloping into the woods after a half-grown black bear in the hopes of getting a photograph. I was a couple of hundred yards into my enthusiasm when I remembered that this beastie was well 'tooled-up', so despite the fact that it seemed to be more anxious to maintain the distance than I was, I decided not to make it feel cornered and smartly paced off back the way I had come.
Now THAT day I was being a real idiot tourist, but the body language of the bear said that he wanted out of there. I'm living proof that I never had to test my gut feeling.

 

[bambislayer]

I was talking to my father tonight and I was telling him about the pb, he was telling me that my Great Aunt [still alive about 90 now] was a war bride and moved to canada with my uncle who was a fur trapper in 47. They lived well out in the wilds . Anyway she killed a timber wolf and a grizzly with a marlin 22 while they were snooping around the cabin.

I have spent a few memorable trips with them in Canada, real life pioneers. I have always told her to write a book, what a culture shock Ayrshire farmers daughter to fur trappers wife in6 months!!!!!!

 

[Acm]

22 rimmies have taken Lion and also I believe at sometime an Elephant (at least somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember reading it sometime back) Polar Bear with a 22.............. fine but all of these success stories which I do not doubt are called one thing

LUCK!!! and lots of it and sometime in life you have to get lucky, but I wouldnt recommend you try it

Peter Hathaway Capstick writes of witnessing a ph heart shoot an elephant with a .22 . Is that where you read it malc ?

 

[Acm]

I was talking to my father tonight and I was telling him about the pb, he was telling me that my Great Aunt [still alive about 90 now] was a war bride and moved to canada with my uncle who was a fur trapper in 47. They lived well out in the wilds . Anyway she killed a timber wolf and a grizzly with a marlin 22 while they were snooping around the cabin.

I have spent a few memorable trips with them in Canada, real life pioneers. I have always told her to write a book, what a culture shock Ayrshire farmers daughter to fur trappers wife in6 months!!!!!!

From one hard life to another !

 

[Klenchblaize]

Embedded into the rim of the eye-socket is a .243 bullet. It obviously did not kill the animal and it was shot again with a bigger round.

From the thread title I knew this would be a hot topic but didn’t see the 243 debate getting another airing so soon!

 

[stratts]

How did this get resurected after over 2 years?? Interesting thread though!

 

[Cascade]

22 rimmies have taken Lion and also I believe at sometime an Elephant (at least somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember reading it sometime back) Polar Bear with a 22.............. fine but all of these success stories which I do not doubt are called one thing

LUCK!!! and lots of it and sometime in life you have to get lucky, but I wouldnt recommend you try it

Thats right , Poachers were taking elephants with 22`s in Africa for a good while in the late 70`s ( and probably still are today ) untill the authorities found out how they were being killed.
The poachers were getting close in and shooting the elephants in the soft skin area behind the front leg, this would penetrate into the heart and the beast would take off, after a short while the elephants could be heard coughing and spluttering, eventually sucumming to the shot it would collapse and die


"Robbobsam" Why is that name ringing very loud alarm bells ????????


Bob

 

[Acm]

Just realised how old this thread is that's embarrassing !