Best dusk scope, and best value dusk scope

I don't know the legal position in Sweden, but the current crop of digital day/night scopes like the Pulsar C50 are far, far better at dusk that any pure glass scope.
They are also significantly cheaper

Cheers

Bruce
Yes, but only legal on wild bore, and there’s non of thoose up here in the North. I’ll be using it for foxhunting.
 
Yes, but only legal on wild bore, and there’s non of thoose up here in the North. I’ll be using it for foxhunting.
Then forget about those vintage 7 or 8 x 56. The reticle is way too thick for foxing.
You need either a Zeiss HT or a S&B Polar.
 
Looking to buy a new scope for dusk hunting here in Northern Sweden.
I’m trying to figure out What to buy, prefering second hand, due to the price.
Some of the once I’ve been looking at are:
Zeiss HT 3-12x56
Swarovski z4i 3-12x50
Meopta R1r 3-12x56
Do you guys have any other reccommendations. Please add two, the best and the best value for money.
Feel free to spit some knowlege🤘
Cheers!

Bushnell Elite with torch or NV addon :thumb:
 
If you dont want to dial distance, have a illuminated ret or have variable mag the best value low light scope is hands down which ever 8x56 of the big 3 (swaro, s&b or ziess) you can find the cheapest nothing else is going to come close for the money and you will literally be spliting hairs in the proformance of all 3 of those and you will find eithier a s+b or ziess for £250-300 easily
 
If it has to be illuminated try a 8x56 Schmidt illuminated or perhaps more easily found a doctor optics 8x56 illuminated - but if it’s fox I’d be going thermal (if legal of course……)
 
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Speaking from experience of scopes I own, my 6-24x50 Swarovski Habicht is very good & has accounted for many deer in the magic hour before & hour after here in the UK. However, the Zeiss 6-24x56 Diavari is in a different class. Can’t say if the same is true for the two models the OP lists but assuming the glass is as good in one as the other then I’d plump for the one with the 56mm objective over the 50mm one.
 
It may just be me, but the illuminated reticles I’ve seen have a tendency to ’overtake’ the picture of the target, ie when it is non-illuminated I suppose my pupil is opened up to take in all that can be seen, but when the red dot or reticle is activated, of course it stands out very well indeed, but the target it’s meant to be helping to hit becomes rather less distinct, possibly as a result of the light source introduced on top of the image. I think they are very good indeed in low light conditions, but not so much in ‘last light’ conditions, but this has only been my own personal experience, and it’s a personal one, I have a Zeiss HT 6-24/56 illuminated in the toy cupboard too.

I personally prefer the thicker crosshairs of the S+B 8x56, having tried the Zeiss 7x50 but didn’t like it, also have a Zeiss Diatal 8/56 which is also very good, with a similar, thicker type reticle to the S+B; both of them I find have a better reticle (less fine) than the HT6-24/56.
 
Of those you'vementioned, the Meopta R1 r , fantastic low-light scope, with a fine dot or centre cross illumination on the reticle. It's been updated with the R2r, which according to Richard Utting is even more betterer.

Value for money? I had a Zeiss Duralyt on my foxing rifle and simply couldn't believe how good it was in the dusk.
 
Have been using S&B classic 3-12x50 with A4 reticle,very good scope and reticle for last light
 
Then forget about those vintage 7 or 8 x 56. The reticle is way too thick for foxing.
You need either a Zeiss HT or a S&B Polar.

I shot a lot of fox in my early days with an 8X56 Schmidt and lamp.

The reticle never got in the way of it, if it was covering the fox I knew it was going down. It’s not like you are trying to hit a shoot and see at 300m let’s be realistic here.
 
Looking to buy a new scope for dusk hunting here in Northern Sweden.
I’m trying to figure out What to buy, prefering second hand, due to the price.
Some of the once I’ve been looking at are:
Zeiss HT 3-12x56
Swarovski z4i 3-12x50
Meopta R1r 3-12x56
Do you guys have any other reccommendations. Please add two, the best and the best value for money.
Feel free to spit some knowlege🤘
Cheers!
I’ve had several which seem very good at dusk but the best I’ve had is a Zeiss Classic 2.5-10x50. Clear, bombproof and great vis right up to last knockings.
 
use swaro and zeiss but I always go back to the S&B Zenith 2.5 - 10. X 56 FD 7 I love the variable mag and the flash dot is just right dawn or dusk

wind the scope back and you get a perfect FOV and just a clear view and a fine red dot perfic
 
On my foxing rifles I use a Zeiss HT 3-12x56 and a S&B Zenith 2,5-10x56. Both are illuminated. I think that the HT is better than the S&B for light gathering and illuminated reticle. I prefer the S&B for the reostat control, numbered settings with an off in between stages. Both are great scopes. I have an equally mad foxing friend who uses a S&B T96 Polar 4-16×56 and is happy with it although he is dabbling in thermal sights now.
 
Cheers guys for all of your thoughts, much apriciated!
Got a cracking deal on a Kahles Helia 2-10x50i. So its now on its way.
We’ll see if it meets the demands…
Merry Christmas!
 
Best value low light scope would be a Delta Titanium HD 2.5-15X56 illuminated.

Performance is pretty much on par or equal depending which reviews you listen to but the price is in a different league to all the scopes you have listed.
 
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