Derbyshire farmer shoots burglars

[Bavarianbrit]

My great grand dad was a commercial traveller on the UK mainland for Donegal Tweed, my gran said he always had a revolver on his person this would be 1895ish.

 

[maxtheflyinghorse]

Did you not have to wait the required 90 days to be seen as a resident first? Or perhaps you had married a US citizen and were seen as a US citizen? I did my 8 years of working in NM, Missouri and Mi, only Mi was the hard one for firearms ownership ref pistols.

I moved in with greencard as my wife is a US citizen. I had to have a form or state ID to apply I got that two months after I came in so I applied in the third month.

 

[bk]

charges fully dropped!

 

[bk]

https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/derbyshire/news/news/north/2026/july/man-arrested-on-suspicion-of-murder-in-whaley-bridge-released-without-further-action/

 

[shakey jake]

Right outcome by why did it take police and cps over 2 years? That poor bloke must of been to hell and back

 

[nightcrow]

My great grand dad was a commercial traveller on the UK mainland for Donegal Tweed, my gran said he always had a revolver on his person this would be 1895ish.

You could just walk into an ironmongers and buy a revolver back then,my great aunt was murdered by someone who had done that.I think she was 16.

 

[M@tt]

charges fully dropped!

Good.
Now charge the other 3 with the death of their 4th companion.

 

[Cootmeurer]

Several of you have referenced US laws. To clarify, it’s is more correctly the law of each state. In some states I must retreat within my house and be left with no further options, and fear for my life, before I can defend myself, and only then with a “legal” firearm. At the other extreme even my vehicle is considered part of “my castle” and I can defend myself if in fear of death or grave bodily harm to myself or another…

But in nearly all cases, once the criminal is departing you cannot keep shooting, and you cannot re-engage unless the criminal has re-engaged first.

And with all of that, there will still be lawyers that will be willing to sue the victims. We just had a case where two armed criminals kicked an 81 year old woman’s door, and were shot in the process. One dropped dead on the spot, the other made it to hospital before dying. Their families then announced intentions to sue on behalf of their dead children. There is another older case that has popped up as well from Georgia, where 3 teens attempted to rob a group of people at 4 AM. When they were rebuffed, one of the teens shot first. The homeowner then dropped all 3 with his responding shots.now, the families have found a lawyer and are suing…..

I sometimes wonder who is the bigger criminal, the ones committing the crime or the class of lawyer that would take a pursue a case like this.

 

[enfieldspares]

I have sometimes held the opinion that we should bring back the "outlaw" concept for the modern age. That is if you yourself act outside the RULE of the law (as in commit criminal acts of a certain clearly listed type and level of gravity) that you then put yourself outside the PROTECTION of the law if what would otherwise be criminal acts against you or your property are done to you. This could even extend to if you have your property unlawfully on another's land that such property can be seized or destroyed without your having recompense or remedy.

 

[LawyerFarmer]

Does anyone know whether he is allowed his firearms back?

 

[Bullet250]

Does anyone know whether he is allowed his firearms back?

Highly unlikely, if he was able to get them back he would probably have to jump through endless hoops beforehand to prove he’s not a danger to anybody else and the incident hasn’t affected him mentally.

 

[Mike1979]

My view is that if thieving scum didnt attempt to rob people and actually worked for what they want in life these issues wouldnt happen. We had a shed broken into about 7 years ago and £1000 of kit stolen by some lazy w*****s who probably got £100 for it ... rant over

 

[finnbear270]

Several of you have referenced US laws. To clarify, it’s is more correctly the law of each state. In some states I must retreat within my house and be left with no further options, and fear for my life, before I can defend myself, and only then with a “legal” firearm. At the other extreme even my vehicle is considered part of “my castle” and I can defend myself if in fear of death or grave bodily harm to myself or another…

But in nearly all cases, once the criminal is departing you cannot keep shooting, and you cannot re-engage unless the criminal has re-engaged first.

And with all of that, there will still be lawyers that will be willing to sue the victims. We just had a case where two armed criminals kicked an 81 year old woman’s door, and were shot in the process. One dropped dead on the spot, the other made it to hospital before dying. Their families then announced intentions to sue on behalf of their dead children. There is another older case that has popped up as well from Georgia, where 3 teens attempted to rob a group of people at 4 AM. When they were rebuffed, one of the teens shot first. The homeowner then dropped all 3 with his responding shots.now, the families have found a lawyer and are suing…..

I sometimes wonder who is the bigger criminal, the ones committing the crime or the class of lawyer that would take a pursue a case like this.

In the UK your private vehicle is classed as “A public space” …

 

[Ronin]

Highly unlikely, if he was able to get them back he would probably have to jump through endless hoops beforehand to prove he’s not a danger to anybody else and the incident hasn’t affected him mentally.

The man has done nothing wrong other than defend his property within the description of UK law

There is no reason he shouldn’t have his firearms reinstated

 

[kenbro]

charges fully dropped!

Bit of sense at last!
Kb.

 

[bowji john]

Digger

Said to me

Don’t be unkind to thieves and burglars

They can’t afford their own shovels

…..

Unravel that one