It would be really useful if the BASC could gather all the information on the different requirements of each country by contacting the relevant parties in each jurisdiction and the collating it all into one place with a definitive guide.From 1 January 2021, UK residents travelling to EU countries with firearms and ammunition will no longer be able to use a European Firearms Pass (EFP).
People will need to comply with the specific licensing or other requirements that other EU countries impose.
Therefore, it is for each hunter to work with their hosts/sporting agents and the government/police of the destination country to ensure that they do not bring a firearm or ammunition illegally into that country.
Some UK hunters will have EFPs printed with expiry dates beyond 1 January 2021. However, a future expiry date cannot be relied upon because all EFPs will become redundant on 1 January 2021.
These changes will not impact on the UK’s domestic firearms controls. EU nationals bringing firearms temporarily into the UK will continue to require a visitors’ firearm permit issued by a UK police force.
If you are a BASC member and need any advice on travelling to EU countries from 1 January 2021 feel free to contact our firearms team.
A bit more at stake?There are bigger things at stake than your hunting trips.
Get a grip man for goodness sake!
Jamsie
Feel free to move if you don't like it.A bit more at stake?
By that you mean all those companies that have set up European offices, factories etc. which are now open, running etc with long term support packages m, whilst in the UK they remain shut with staff on Furlough or working from home. Do you think the UK will open. Amongst my clients I reckon 500 jobs in the UK are gone.
Or all those in Agriculture sector where all the forward orders for European buyers of grain, potatoes etc for delivery post 31st December
are not there, and if, as looks likely, tarriffs will be in place, post Jan 1st they will not be cometative,
Or anybody on the automotive supply chain as new vehicle models move production overseas m
Or now that European Medicines Authority has relocated from London to Amsterdam, the Benelux region is now the centre for much medical research and especially clinical trials - UK was the world leader - most has been transferred away.
Or anybody in professional services who includes European clients. UK professional bodies were recognised qualifies right across Europe. Most won’t be post Jan 1st
So yes you are absolutely correct in that there is a bit more at stake than a few of us going on hunting trips to Europe, or you finding the cost of most new firearms, optics and ammo go up by 25% plus - remember VAT is applied to retail price which is turn affected by any import tarriffs, custom duties and general import / export embuggerance costs.
But I am sure Borris will wave his magic wand and..........
It’s not your country is our country!Feel free to move if you don't like it.
I'm for staying because I happen to like my country.
Jamsie
**** me, next you are going to blame us for stealing your grandchildrens future.A bit more at stake?
By that you mean all those companies that have set up European offices, factories etc. which are now open, running etc with long term support packages m, whilst in the UK they remain shut with staff on Furlough or working from home. Do you think the UK will open. Amongst my clients I reckon 500 jobs in the UK are gone.
Or all those in Agriculture sector where all the forward orders for European buyers of grain, potatoes etc for delivery post 31st December
are not there, and if, as looks likely, tarriffs will be in place, post Jan 1st they will not be cometative,
Or anybody on the automotive supply chain as new vehicle models move production overseas m
Or now that European Medicines Authority has relocated from London to Amsterdam, the Benelux region is now the centre for much medical research and especially clinical trials - UK was the world leader - most has been transferred away.
Or anybody in professional services who includes European clients. UK professional bodies were recognised qualifies right across Europe. Most won’t be post Jan 1st
So yes you are absolutely correct in that there is a bit more at stake than a few of us going on hunting trips to Europe, or you finding the cost of most new firearms, optics and ammo go up by 25% plus - remember VAT is applied to retail price which is turn affected by any import tarriffs, custom duties and general import / export embuggerance costs.
But I am sure Borris will wave his magic wand and..........
It's my country because I live in it and I believe in it. You clearly don't so as I stated before ... the ports are open. Don't let the door hit you on the a*se on your way out.It’s not your country is our country!
who do you think you are telling someone to feel free and move from our country just because their opinion differs from yours!
grow up!
our country is going to be on a rights buggers muddle come Dec 31st
personally when it all goes tits up I can’t wait to shout I told you so!
It’s going to be nothing but ball ache!
I have said it all along well done for all those who voted for brexit!
all those who like to travel to the continent to hunt with their own rifles is now an almighty head ache
round of applause you have all fu(ked my continental hunting right up![]()
A little bit of leveling of the playing field if you like. We have had the benefit of our EFPs being fully recognised by most EU countries for a number of years but we never reciprocated and required that visitors had a visitors permit.Looks like the lack of an EU pass is going to be a one way inconvenience that's only going to affect UK residents,
Well it's not that straightforward really is it? I mean it might have been until recently, but now his freedom to move and work in and with the rest of Europe is rather more constrained.Feel free to move if you don't like it.
I'm for staying because I happen to like my country.
Jamsie
Clearly he doesn't want to be here any more as the situation doesn't suit him. Actions speak louder than words of course but he won't be moving. As far as being insulting is concerned, he brings that on himself by his self-centred whinging and if there was ever a golden badge for that particular category then give it to him ... because he deserves it.Well it's not that straightforward really is it? I mean it might have been until recently, but now his freedom to move and work in and with the rest of Europe is rather more constrained.
Quite apart from the fact that what you infer about @Heym SR20 is insulting.
(@Heym SR20, I think there should be a little badge for SD members who have been told to leave the UK if they don't like it. A golden one if you've been invited to go back to where you came from, but that happens to be here, so... )
Frankly I dont care about your personal hunting trips. How many times have you solely relied on your EFP and not your UK FAC ? Id wager a big fat zero.
Stop whinging and fill out some extra paper work.
Jamsie,Clearly he doesn't want to be here any more as the situation doesn't suit him. Actions speak louder than words of course but he won't be moving. As far as being insulting is concerned, he brings that on himself by his self-centred whinging and if there was ever a golden badge for that particular category then give it to him ... because he deserves it.
Jamsie