Fac air is it worth it ?

This is not my thread but perhaps the Op is happy to second a plea to move things on and invite suggestions for the best manufacturers of hunter-friendly pellets for FAC-rated PCP’s?

This would allow a shortlist of tins to be purchased rather than randomly grabbing whatever your RFD happens to have on his shelf.

Oh, and I don’t care if recommendations include 177 pellets!

K
 
so far it seems to be the exact opposite as my intention was just to say things as I personally see them , seems a few agree with me so far anyhow
And a lot don’t agree as well . We all have our views on it , but when I get told by two different fao , lot people are handing in .22lr on their tickets and putting in a variation for FAC air tells you something plus when I am the only one who comes in for .22 ammo in one of my local RFD another said sale of .22lr guns are vertically none existent now days & hardly sell .22 ammo for hunting , but sell a bit for the target boys , also tells you something
I think we need to agree to disagree on this as we both have different views on it
 
But with in seconds you can turn it down to 20ftlbs
Yeah, I get that but then you’re changing zero, for me personally I am going out to shoot with an air rifle at around 30 ft-lb or a .22 at 90, depending on the quarry and situation. It would be rare that I would need both.

Each to their own though.
 
So spend best part or over 1k for what exactly over a 22 RF ? Not a lot if anything , i would say the reverse in practical terms and costs a lot higher on purchase of the gun and the charging gear . Exactly what does an FAC PCP bring to the table with all its extra kit , over what the 22 lr does ?
Only bits i get is 1. some enjoy messing to get the thing working efficiently and accurate, all most a hobby in its own right 2. Some FEO's force peoples hands with the grant of Air power over the 22 LR
There is certainly nothing that betters air power into the 6- late teens of energy
 
I'd rather shoot pellets at fac around lot of my permission than .22lr i', terms of ricochet...
And as for ...oh get different ammo to suit....it's like rocking horse sh1t
Pellets far easier to source and safer around types of ratting etc I do
 
See, I must admit, I really don’t get running an air rifle with slugs at 90 ft-lb. It just becomes a .22 LR…..


Its all about options .

Whats the point of having a car that can do 100 mph when your only allowed to do 70 mph ( if your lucky )

Whats the point of having a rifle / calibre that can achieve 3000 ftlbs to shoot a deer when you only need 1750 ftlbs ?


At the moment its in .22 form running 32 ftlbs with pellets because thats all i need for what im doing at the moment but it will turn up to 60 ftlbs with slugs if i felt the need i spose .
But in the spring i come out of the woods from shooting pigeons and squirrels and start lamping at night more often than not on the bunny's i will switch it over to .25 cal and run it around 90 ftlbs .
But if i have to go clear a building of ferols i can just turn it right down again with NO loss of accuracy and go clearing building and barns out . Then turn it back up when im done , like i said its all about options no need to make a trip to my RFD to buy special ammo ( or should i say order it and wait 3 months for it to turn up ) everything i need is in my pocket and the turn of a dial !

Having the extra power gives me a much greater scope to tune my rifle and ammo combination for starters .

Its the same principle with reloading. Sometimes you need to turn the power up or down to achieve stability or just to flatten out your trajectory with different pellets or slugs or just to plain make the rifle more efficient

lot of people don't realise just how tuneable these are , i can change barrel length / twist rate / seating depth / MV
And have a lot more flexibility with ammo weights than a ever can with a rimmy . I can shoot 15.5 grn right up to 47 grn

So i have an air rifle and a rimfire all in one great big tuneable package that will tune to 1 - 2 fps over 25 shots or more .

I also use it for PRS comps and small bore Bench rest inter-comp league , as do others !

Hoping that sort of makes sense .
 
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Any recommendations for a good air rifle forum? Keen to learn more about progress and options since purchasing a Feinwerkbau 124 Sport back in 1975.

K
Well that’s easy budddy
get yourself over to
your be made to feel very welcome. No attitudes just lots of help and even more knowledge.
there are some REALLY clever people over there 👍
 
Well that’s easy budddy
get yourself over to
your be made to feel very welcome. No attitudes just lots of help and even more knowledge.
there are some REALLY clever people over there 👍
Second this I’m on there and a friendly bunch and it’s a broad church from target, plinking to hunting HFT etc with dedicated sub categories for technical whether air or optics 👍.
 
So spend best part or over 1k for what exactly over a 22 RF ? Not a lot if anything , i would say the reverse in practical terms and costs a lot higher on purchase of the gun and the charging gear . Exactly what does an FAC PCP bring to the table with all its extra kit , over what the 22 lr does ?
Only bits i get is 1. some enjoy messing to get the thing working efficiently and accurate, all most a hobby in its own right 2. Some FEO's force peoples hands with the grant of Air power over the 22 LR
There is certainly nothing that betters air power into the 6- late teens of energy
You still don’t get it do you , very much blinkered
Like I said a fair few are handing in .22lr for FAC air not about fao forcing anyone. Most have dive bottles for sub 12 , so that’s not an argument. FAC air is more versatile than .22lr and that’s fact
 
I'd rather shoot pellets at fac around lot of my permission than .22lr i', terms of ricochet...
And as for ...oh get different ammo to suit....it's like rocking horse sh1t
Pellets far easier to source and safer around types of ratting etc I do
Of course , use the appropriate thing under the given circumstances ! No the ammo isn't rare , its the dealers that are big enough to keep a big range on the shelf that are rare . Rats generally dont need more than .22 pellets at 10-12 ft lb if they are in buildings that sort of thing has to be option number 1 .
 
You still don’t get it do you , very much blinkered
Like I said a fair few are handing in .22lr for FAC air not about fao forcing anyone. Most have dive bottles for sub 12 , so that’s not an argument. FAC air is more versatile than .22lr and that’s fact
Why might anyone turn in a rifle because it was 22LR, in favour of buying PCP and all the kit to fill the thing ? The second hand market doesn't stand such things high enough value and FAC air to add is really easy to add for existing owners of a 22RF . They dont eat anything if they sit in the cabinet and they dont de-grade .
Personally i am using more small CF than .22 rf but the .22 RF rifles are not sat degrading in the safe . A few years in the safe unused and un-serviced they come to no harm and the FEO is not really going to bother much . I have found PCP air generally will have issues with seals etc when left unloved and unused .
Hey , i have no real axe to grind here i have kept and used airguns for about 45 years or so PCP and spring ( i favour a tuned springer ) shot FT and HFT in comps , killed a lot of stuff with them - still do ! Cant see me ever again putting a PCP back on my ticket. If others are super keen that's all well and good though , they might like messing and fixing stuff as part of their hobby ?
 
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So basically you’ve not got a clue?


Fac air is a brilliant well used tool.

I much prefer it over 12ft/lb guns so if you already have an fac then it would be daft not to own one

I have a BSA R10 .177 running 20ft/lb
What an awesome tool it is.

Anyone who says it’s no good has absolutely not a clue what they are talking about
Those .177 pellets must be going supersonic. I didnt think it was viable to go as high as 20ft lb without getting turbulance problems, but it obviously works for your gun.
 
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