Treedave
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For my younger HWV cost estimated at £105 per month, take from that what you will.
hiring a trained deer
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For my younger HWV cost estimated at £105 per month, take from that what you will.
So, anyone willing to say X amount of ££'s. Third party just maybes thinking about paying but would need something to go by. I aint holding my breath. It is not really that important to me anyways. What is important is getting rules and red tape changed to prevent this kind of situation happening again. To me dogs are the cheapest, best asset we have. For a bit of time, care and a handful of food they help to put a lot of deer into the larder. Some people will spend a fortune to save a penny but when the **** hits the fan they cant clean up the mess, they leave it for someone else to do
Heym SR20
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You could alway take the cost of the dog and then divide that by the numbers of months of useful life a dog has to get a rate per month. But is there really a ready market for fully trained deer dogs. I have seen a number of so called fully trained gun dogs out shooting. Generally they are pretty useless, as the owner has paid a lot of money because he hasn’t the time or inclination to train the dog and hasn’t realised that training and education are ongoing.
If I was loaning a dog I would work it on the basis that the person looking after the dog pays for food, insurance and any vet bills and I would be happy in the knowledge that the dog was getting lots of work and is happy.
If I was loaning a dog I would work it on the basis that the person looking after the dog pays for food, insurance and any vet bills and I would be happy in the knowledge that the dog was getting lots of work and is happy.
mereside
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Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, my thoughts are the cost will be more than going out and buying a dog are you doing it to make money or as a favour till ranger gets a pup trained up, only you guys can up with a figure you can agree on. Too many things to work through as anything could happen.
Wolverine
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Not being negative Al,being a realist,as you know a lot of things can happen and as others have also said you and Rem284 are best to have a cast iron agreement so as not to fall out further down the line.
Not good losing your dog like that and very good of Rem284 to help you out,however,as I’ve said watch and don’t all out with each other.
A figure of ££££......very hard to estimate and also depends on a lot of other things that are agreed.
The price someone has came up with of £100ish/month is very cheap.
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Wolverine
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I comment mostly on dog subjects as I know dogs inside out and am very experienced when anything doggy comes up.If I feel like commenting on other things I will but I prefer too comment in my area of knowledge.
I also prefer commenting about dogs and their work rather than anything else.
Saying I’m negative is no surprise as I am looking at worst case situations when loaning a dog out rather than best case,this way you cannot be surprised if anything happens,as I’ve said just have cast iron agreements in place so the 2 of you don’t fall out.
Perhaps think of bringing on a pup rather than hire a dog,you need a dog anyway or it maybe just suits you better not to have a pup and you will require a trained dog anyway.
Cut+Squirt
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I generally don't comment on the dog threads anymore as a few self appointed 'experts' can't wait to spout their usual crap.
The truth of it is Ranger + Rem284 there will hardly be a handful of people on this forum who are shooting and dealing with as many deer as you pair, including using dogs to locate them.
I doubt the expert advice you seek won't be found here, and a private chat between you both to thrash out a mutually agreeable deal might be the way forward.
Wolverine
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Self-appointed expert with qualifications from the Organisations that can actually state are the experts in this field,a judge now as well Cadex.
As for shooting enough deer,that’s when you need the dogs even more.
You ought to ask FC Cadex who sent their “experts” abroad for advise on the subject of dogs and tracking,ask them who they were told they should talk too.....
You can’t seriously expect a dog thread to remain civilised?
Ranger22
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countrryboy
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Is it possible to hire other trained working dogs, like sheep dogs or sniffer/guard dogs?
That might give u a general idea of a price.
To be honest it depends how well u know each other but possibly i wouldn't bother wi money it jst complicates things, just loan it as a favour and hopefull u never need the favour returned but u never know. karma and all that.
Just another thought but wot happens rem if ur dog gets hurt/lame etc? So u need ur other dog back? If its 'rented' can u just get it back the same? (Althou i doubt ranger would hold onto it in those circumstances either) But strictly speaking he would be entitled too
I know a few folk that lend gundogs out sometimes for whole season, never heard of money being paid, and in a few cases dogs came back ruined purely due to the person not having a clue (won't be a problem in this case thou)
Must admit if i hate borrowing stuff as feart something happens i'd probably just try and buy/acquire a working bred pot licker and try and mould it too wot i needed, will never be as good as 1 u have as a pup but it will probably be good enough quick enough for a lot of ur work esp if u have a good dog for it to learn off intially.
Esp if a lab, i know not ur prefered bred but just so easy to train/mould esp as an adult when u know wot ur doing. Other breeds can be far trickier depending wot problems thay have (and they will have some if being given away)
Usually the grouse boys have plenty of working pot lickers in their kennels and often a bit of wire in the labs, usually a few being moved about for free/cheap
That might give u a general idea of a price.
To be honest it depends how well u know each other but possibly i wouldn't bother wi money it jst complicates things, just loan it as a favour and hopefull u never need the favour returned but u never know. karma and all that.
Just another thought but wot happens rem if ur dog gets hurt/lame etc? So u need ur other dog back? If its 'rented' can u just get it back the same? (Althou i doubt ranger would hold onto it in those circumstances either) But strictly speaking he would be entitled too
I know a few folk that lend gundogs out sometimes for whole season, never heard of money being paid, and in a few cases dogs came back ruined purely due to the person not having a clue (won't be a problem in this case thou)
Must admit if i hate borrowing stuff as feart something happens i'd probably just try and buy/acquire a working bred pot licker and try and mould it too wot i needed, will never be as good as 1 u have as a pup but it will probably be good enough quick enough for a lot of ur work esp if u have a good dog for it to learn off intially.
Esp if a lab, i know not ur prefered bred but just so easy to train/mould esp as an adult when u know wot ur doing. Other breeds can be far trickier depending wot problems thay have (and they will have some if being given away)
Usually the grouse boys have plenty of working pot lickers in their kennels and often a bit of wire in the labs, usually a few being moved about for free/cheap
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Wolverine
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They never sent me,
Wolverine
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I was hoping several of the pointer/falconry enthusiasts might chip in with the cost. I thought pointer only but the conversation regarding dogs, birds and eagles got expensive quickly
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