Kipplauf advice- K95/ K3&4 etc?

[secondtry]

Have had three K95s, and still have the stutzen in 308. Have had 7x65R and 30.06 in the 24" barrell. For me 7x65R was the comfortable limit recoil wise. I know of others with 9.3x74R who don't complain about recoil, but no thank you.

They do bounce around a little, but the stock is surprisingly well shaped, although it doesn't look so as a first impression. Cheek piece is fine for me.

308 in the stutzen is a marriage made in heaven, and if one is going the chop and mod path, 308 is well suited.

Don't understand the negative feedback on the non adjustable trigger - all mine, and those of others that I know of have been perfect in terms of weight of pull and quality of release, so no adjustment necessary. Not a long range gun for me, more because of my skill level than the rifle. There are K95s in New Zealand being successful used out past 400 yards.

They are not as light as you might expect, particularly with a 60cm barrel. My Stutzen is heavier than my Peak 90 308, both with the same make and model of scope. A 52cm K95 rifle is lighter than the Stutzen but would still be no lighter than the Peak.

FWIW working load in my Stutzen is a 165 Nosler Partition at 2680FPS. Accuracy is under .6" for three.

 

[JohnCZ]

Okay, so the Blaser bug steered me into a K95 Kipplauf, slowly but surely, random thought by random thought. I ended up at my LGS and landing a new and gorgeous K95 Luxus (Roe/Red deer variant), grade six walnut with Blaser super finish and ebony tip, chambered in 308Win with 600mm barrel and open sights.
Yes I have an R8 Success that has 22-250, 6.5x55, 30-06 and 9.3x62 barrels, and yes that was going to be my last rifle BUT…. I had convinced myself and wanted a K95 in either a 6.5x57R or 7x57R however, this one was a special order with select timber that was cancelled so I got it $4K under current RRP, plus the rimmed brass is hard to come by in Aussie. that's my story and I am sticking with that….
Waiting for my permit to acquire to come through is killing me, the excitement is real people, real I tell you.
Photos to come
Cheers
John

Well paperwork done and K95 collected, pretty happy all told, can't wait to get shooting.

 

[Andy Mauthe]

Well paperwork done and K95 collected, pretty happy all told, can't wait to get shooting.

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Beautiful! What grade timber is that? What a lovely rifle. Let us know how it shoots. You probably said earlier but what chambering is it in?

 

[doric_prince]

Well paperwork done and K95 collected, pretty happy all told, can't wait to get shooting.

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She’s a beauty

 

[JohnCZ]

Beautiful! What grade timber is that? What a lovely rifle. Let us know how it shoots. You probably said earlier but what chambering is it in?

Great piece of wood, grade 6 with Blaser's super finish. The photos don't do it justice. Chambered in 308win so I am going to load some Barnes TTSX 150gr to start and fingers crossed it shoots. I own some other lovely rifles but this is special, I am really over the moon to be honest.

 

[Dunwaters]

Very pretty.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Not to be used for camel culling then? Very nice though.

 

[JohnCZ]

Not to be used for camel culling then? Very nice though.

Pretty or not they all get used in the field, however the R8 Success 9.3x62 probably gets the nod for camels

 

[tackb]

there was some lovely classic British sporting rifles you may consider eccentric enough ?

single and double , include the myriad of falling block systems and the world is your oyster !

imagine a delightful break open single shot British rifle in .303 maybe a H&H or same calibre but a delightful farquharson ?

 

[NickJ]

Gentlemen,

I find that my 7x57/.275 Ron Wharton, which was once a little bit of a traditional niche, is now almost merging into the mainstream consciousness (helped by Rigby Highland Stalker et al), and I feel the need for some other eccentricity!

What better than a Kipplauf- light, accurate, basic sporting simplicity and style. Just what I need for a happy 50th birthday! Open sights and a low mag swaro- mainly roe bucks and the odd highland stag. Definitely in the quality not quantity zone.

Anyway, looking at a Blaser K95 or Merkel K3/5, or possibly a Krieghoff Hubertus, and grateful for any thoughts and advice from those that have them.

People get overly concerned with the performance of various calibers in general, but caliber does matter a bit with a Kipplauf I think, in terms of both practicality and (to me at least) tradition.
I don't want to home load, and 7x57R is virtually unavailable off the shelf in the UK. 6.5x55 is therefore first choice and should extract fine, despite not being a rimmed cartridge.
Most availability, and most Kipplaufs sold in the UK, are however .243 or .308. Both of these are a little bit dull to me, not very 'Alpine', and I wouldn't really choose either for a Kipplauf (but may have to accept Hobson's choice!). My main concern with the .308 and a Kipplauf is felt recoil. Views on that from those who have one?

Any thoughts appreciated!

Is a loden hat essential? I imagine so?!

Thanks.

I was going to say that Blaser do a 6.5x55 as Thomas Haugland of thlr is using one as someone else has said.

What is interesting is, Thomas seems to have blown the myth (or was it just me who thought this?) that Kiplaufs are not as accurate as he's put some pretty impressive long range work in on targets

 

[JohnCZ]

I was going to say that Blaser do a 6.5x55 as Thomas Haugland of thlr is using one as someone else has said.

What is interesting is, Thomas seems to have blown the myth (or was it just me who thought this?) that Kiplaufs are not as accurate as he's put some pretty impressive long range work in on targets

Initially I was going to order a K95 in 6.5x57R thinking the rim would be better but brass is like rocking horse sh*t here in Oz, Thomas recommended 6.5x55 sating that he is seeing no difference in performance and the Swede is very common the world over. This was going to be my order however I ended up with a 308 chamber which will also do the job. Thomas is a legend and is happy to provide any assistance he can, no matter where you are.

 

[JohnCZ]

Shot the Blaser K95 at the range, handload of a Barnes TTSX 150gr 0.50" off the lands, CCI 200 primer, Norma cases and 44 grains of ADI AR2206H. Temperature was 31ºC and pressure was good, the stock managed the little 308 Winchester recoil nicely and returned accuracy around MOA at 2900fps. Extremely happy with the finish, handling and accuracy of the rifle. I would recommend if you are in the market for a single shot kipplauf rifle to consider the Blaser K95 and some of the many options available.
Another photo just because I am over the moon with it

 

[DEHL1980]

Beautiful rifle. - enjoy!

 

[Bavarianbrit]

31ºC.
We are presently at -6C but a clear blue sky somewhere here in Germany hit -22C last night.
Nice group btw too cold here to even try using the range.

 

[Wmjas]

Holy hekka the rings in that stock are unbelievable!

 

[JohnCZ]

31ºC.
We are presently at -6C but a clear blue sky somewhere here in Germany hit -22C last night.
Nice group btw too cold here to even try using the range.

We just had 37ºC days with 80% humidity, which is a bit ordinary to be honest. My wife comes from Sarajevo, Bosnia and my Grandfather from Gothenburg, Sweden, so the first time I went to Sweden then Bosnia in winter I was completely surprised to say the least. I had seen sleet while out hunting and I thought that was snow LOL. I am from a semi tropical climate in Australia so a cold day is generally 16ºC.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Ha, I did do three months working in Pune India at 43C I was 62 at the time and that was heavy going for me.

 

[Andy Mauthe]

Beautiful rifle and very nice grouping. I woke up this morning to-9 Fahrenheit! So no shooting for me!

 

[Kiwiroger]

Shot the Blaser K95 at the range, handload of a Barnes TTSX 150gr 0.50" off the lands, CCI 200 primer, Norma cases and 44 grains of ADI AR2206H. Temperature was 31ºC and pressure was good, the stock managed the little 308 Winchester recoil nicely and returned accuracy around MOA at 2900fps. Extremely happy with the finish, handling and accuracy of the rifle. I would recommend if you are in the market for a single shot kipplauf rifle to consider the Blaser K95 and some of the many options available.
Another photo just because I am over the moon with it

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Seeing as you're reloading Barnes ttsx 150, I'd suggest trying 130 ttsx in your rifle, with that long barrel you'll get some smoking velocity and they perform on everything. I've been using them for 10 plus years and don't intend to change in my .308

 

[JohnCZ]

Seeing as you're reloading Barnes ttsx 150, I'd suggest trying 130 ttsx in your rifle, with that long barrel you'll get some smoking velocity and they perform on everything. I've been using them for 10 plus years and don't intend to change in my .308

Hi I normally load TTSX in 168gr or 150gr for my 30-06, initially I was thinking of a 130gr TTSX load but had the 150gr at hand. What powder are you using, I am assuming ADI considering you appear to live next door