Moderators law update??

wish they would hurry up ive got a .243 wildlcat sat here and its multi calibre but i'm tied to advertise it as a .243 i can only sell it as such
 
wish they would hurry up ive got a .243 wildlcat sat here and its multi calibre but i'm tied to advertise it as a .243 i can only sell it as such
Why not just advertise it as multi calibre?
Just because you use it on a .243 doesn't mean someone else can't use on a different calibre rifle.

When I first had an empty slot for a mod to use on my .243, I bought one 2nd hand that was advertised as "suitable for up to .30 calibre".
It was initially entered on my FAC as .243
The same mod is currently listed on my FAC as .270 but I still only use it on my .243 because I decided not to screwcut the .270
 
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It's a moderator, in a practical world you would have non FAC for air, Rimfire, and centrefire.
Not calibre specific 😞

A 30 Cal on a 22 hornet may not be as effective for noise reduction, but it is just a metal tube.

I can go out tomorrow and buy a SAK.177 / 22 mod for my non fac air rifle (the same mod I would be sold under license on my FAC Rimfire)

As we the people who use them know ,madness.
 
It's a moderator, in a practical world you would have non FAC for air, Rimfire, and centrefire.
Not calibre specific 😞

A 30 Cal on a 22 hornet may not be as effective for noise reduction, but it is just a metal tube.

I can go out tomorrow and buy a SAK.177 / 22 mod for my non fac air rifle (the same mod I would be sold under license on my FAC Rimfire)

As we the people who use them know ,madness.
I actually use my 17hmr sak on my air rifle, and very good it is too👍
 
I actually use my 17hmr sak on my air rifle, and very good it is too👍
Can of worms now. If the air rifle is non FAC, and the mod is FAC, does the air rifle become FAC and Subject to the same conditions?

The wording on my FAC suggests that the moderator Is to be used with rifle it is granted for / alongside. ?!!
 
Why not just advertise it as multi calibre?
Just because you use it on a .243 doesn't mean someone else can't use on a different calibre rifle.

When I first had an empty slot for a mod to use on my .243, I bought one 2nd hand that was advertised as "suitable for up to .30 calibre".
It was initially entered on my FAC as .243
The same mod is currently listed on my FAC as .270 but I still only use it on my .243 because I decided not to screwcut the .270
HI I was told by GMP that as it was sold to me as a .243 and has a SN on the mod which is registered on their system even though its a multi calibre Mod its tied to GMP records as a .243 and can only be sold as such ( till the change in law comes in )
 
Can of worms now. If the air rifle is non FAC, and the mod is FAC, does the air rifle become FAC and Subject to the same conditions?

The wording on my FAC suggests that the moderator Is to be used with rifle it is granted for / alongside. ?!!
Not according to the feo who visited me?
 
Can of worms now. If the air rifle is non FAC, and the mod is FAC, does the air rifle become FAC and Subject to the same conditions?

The wording on my FAC suggests that the moderator Is to be used with rifle it is granted for / alongside. ?!!
The situation is still as it has always been. You can walk into an RFD and buy either a dedicated air rifle moderator such as a BSA or an HW or a crossover such as a SAK, no questions asked other than written/official proof of your name and address etc for the shop register. The potential anomaly in the proposed legislation was picked up by BASC and from this, further clarity was asked for.

There's no need to have multiple moderators for multiple rifles. That is, unless, they are different calibres, cartridges or threads. You are authorised to possess and use "A" rifle, you are authorised to possess and use "A" moderator. Nowhere does it say, on my certificate at least, that both have to be used in combination with each other to the exclusion of others.

Parliament time to introduce the new legislation? Seems they found time to increase the cost of FAC/SGC grants, renewals and variations pretty sharpish and only just recently changes to the application requirements too. Think about it ;)
 
wish they would hurry up ive got a .243 wildlcat sat here and its multi calibre but i'm tied to advertise it as a .243 i can only sell it as such
I took one to the local gunshop a few weeks ago and gave it away to get it off my FAC.
Easy.
Ken.
 
From what I recall of wanting a Wildcat for my 6PPC, they required my rifle for sending with the moderator for proofing of the latter. Only then would it be supplied via my RFD as a "6mm PPC (US)" moderator with corresponding engraved/etched badging, along with a unique serial number.

K
 
To change the law on Moderators will require amendments to the Firearms Act.

This will require parliamentary time and debate. Do we really want politicians to scrutinise the Firearms Act yet again and for them all to put their pennies worth in. Even worse do you want Government Whips agreeing to yet more restrictions on Firearms act so they can use this to curry favour with MPs as a bargaining chip with on other legislation they want to get through.

Do we really want to run that risk, just so that you can easily exchange one moderator for another?

I don’t think it is worth it frankly.
 
Like our Labour Government don't have more pressing issues to attend to!

K
Indeed, but they're not actually attending to any of them.

To change the law on Moderators will require amendments to the Firearms Act.
Will it? More likely it can be done by statutory instrument.
This will require parliamentary time and debate. Do we really want politicians to scrutinise the Firearms Act yet again and for them all to put their pennies worth in. Even worse do you want Government Whips agreeing to yet more restrictions on Firearms act so they can use this to curry favour with MPs as a bargaining chip with on other legislation they want to get through.

Do we really want to run that risk, just so that you can easily exchange one moderator for another?

I don’t think it is worth it frankly.
 
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