New barrel break in
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Quite a noncommittal answer, might as well have written,"Meh , it's up to you " .Quite funny, if you scroll down to the last question it is claimed that cut rifling has just a wee edge over button rifling.
Before they were set up to do cut rifling and were button only, Sassen said 'no difference!'
Indeed, its up to you if you follow a procedure and which procedure you follow. On SD, you will never find a consensus answer of what is best, similar to the debates about whether to clean at all.
But, to put it another way, it can't do any harm, if you clean properly. Unless you have more money than sense, you shouldn't be buying too many new rifles in your life anyway.
Me personally, I clean after every use to prevent corrosion rather than promote the last thousandth of accuracy. When I bought a new rifle, it took 6 shots to zero and get comfortable with the rifle, the 7th went through a deer. The first clean was later that evening.
But, to put it another way, it can't do any harm, if you clean properly. Unless you have more money than sense, you shouldn't be buying too many new rifles in your life anyway.
Me personally, I clean after every use to prevent corrosion rather than promote the last thousandth of accuracy. When I bought a new rifle, it took 6 shots to zero and get comfortable with the rifle, the 7th went through a deer. The first clean was later that evening.
On this subject I just have had a new Sassen barrel fitted to my .243 Sako and as I have to zero in a new scope so I plan to break the barrel in as I have to sort out the zero and have a play with it anyway.
However one thing that hasn't been made clear anywhere I can find is when shooting and cleaning how far do you go with the cleaning between shots.
Is it the same as a full barrel clean i.e. keep going until the patches come clean each time also involving brushes?
Probably a stupid question but its not really clear as there is cleaning and full on scrubbing cleaning.
Cheers in advance
Zetter
However one thing that hasn't been made clear anywhere I can find is when shooting and cleaning how far do you go with the cleaning between shots.
Is it the same as a full barrel clean i.e. keep going until the patches come clean each time also involving brushes?
Probably a stupid question but its not really clear as there is cleaning and full on scrubbing cleaning.
Cheers in advance
Zetter
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
TSE formerly MAB Barrels have this on their website
Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after each individual shot for the first 5 shots.
Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after firing 3-shot groups for 5 groups.
After patching out the Sweets, clean again after each group with a good powder solvent. Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after firing 5-shot groups for 5 groups.
After patching out the Sweets, clean again after each group with a good powder solvent.
If the barrel is cleaning easily and there is little or no fouling, proceed to clean at the end of every range. Powder fouling should be removed first with a good solvent, then copper fouling removed with Sweets, patching out after each solvent, then powder solvent should again be applied.
They make their own and I have a few of their barrels but dont really do what they suggest lol. I take them out and shoot them and thats it.
RUNNING IN AN NEW BARREL
All new barrels should be properly run-in. The procedure involves frequent cleaning for the first 50 shots or so and is accomplished as follows:Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after each individual shot for the first 5 shots.
Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after firing 3-shot groups for 5 groups.
After patching out the Sweets, clean again after each group with a good powder solvent. Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after firing 5-shot groups for 5 groups.
After patching out the Sweets, clean again after each group with a good powder solvent.
If the barrel is cleaning easily and there is little or no fouling, proceed to clean at the end of every range. Powder fouling should be removed first with a good solvent, then copper fouling removed with Sweets, patching out after each solvent, then powder solvent should again be applied.
They make their own and I have a few of their barrels but dont really do what they suggest lol. I take them out and shoot them and thats it.
BARRELS - Total Solutions Engineering - Firearm Manufacturing Services Australia
www.tsengineering.com.au
I put a Sassen 243 on an AI throated for the 107gr SMK.
20 rounds of load development, 3 or 4 for zero, cleaned once and it was a hammer from the get go.
Life it too short for that. Better off with another brand of barrel.TSE formerly MAB Barrels have this on their website
RUNNING IN AN NEW BARREL
All new barrels should be properly run-in. The procedure involves frequent cleaning for the first 50 shots or so and is accomplished as follows:
Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after each individual shot for the first 5 shots.
Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after firing 3-shot groups for 5 groups.
After patching out the Sweets, clean again after each group with a good powder solvent. Clean the barrel thoroughly with Sweets, leaving it in the barrel for no more than 15 minutes, after firing 5-shot groups for 5 groups.
After patching out the Sweets, clean again after each group with a good powder solvent.
If the barrel is cleaning easily and there is little or no fouling, proceed to clean at the end of every range. Powder fouling should be removed first with a good solvent, then copper fouling removed with Sweets, patching out after each solvent, then powder solvent should again be applied.
They make their own and I have a few of their barrels but dont really do what they suggest lol. I take them out and shoot them and thats it.
BARRELS - Total Solutions Engineering - Firearm Manufacturing Services Australia
www.tsengineering.com.au
~Muir
kenbro
Well-Known Member
Reading THAT heading makes me think they’ll recommend Brake fluid to clean their barrels.
Ken.
That's nothing , Howa more or less do
With a little witchcraft.Reads as though you're just filling the imperfections with copper ?
If I remember correctly, this "break-in" procedure comes from Legacy Sports, not Howa.That's nothing , Howa more or less do
Reads as though you're just filling the imperfections with copper ?
What an embarrassing admission to poor quality. ~Muir
Just from recent experience.
I went up the range at the weekend with the intention of shooting the barrel in. Fired one cleaned it which basically took two patches and was showing no copper. Fired a second again no copper and clean with two wet patches. At this point as I wanted to set the scope up for foxing that evening I fired another five to get a rough zero the clean again showed no copper and cleaned after two patches.
So I shot another 10 to get the zero honed in and then had to pack up and head home.
I left the barrel dirty as I was going out foxing that even. Shot two foxes and call it a night so when I came home I cleaned the barrel again to see if it was picking up any fouling after 4 wet patch it was clean with no real indication of copper.
Compared to my factory barrels this stainless sassen is a joy so far it smooth to clean and does not appear to pick up fouling easily. As it stands I am just going to shoot it and enjoy it as I dont think it really needs any further breaking in. Next stop is to start working up a load for it as I zeroed it in using some cheap federal I had laying about.
I went up the range at the weekend with the intention of shooting the barrel in. Fired one cleaned it which basically took two patches and was showing no copper. Fired a second again no copper and clean with two wet patches. At this point as I wanted to set the scope up for foxing that evening I fired another five to get a rough zero the clean again showed no copper and cleaned after two patches.
So I shot another 10 to get the zero honed in and then had to pack up and head home.
I left the barrel dirty as I was going out foxing that even. Shot two foxes and call it a night so when I came home I cleaned the barrel again to see if it was picking up any fouling after 4 wet patch it was clean with no real indication of copper.
Compared to my factory barrels this stainless sassen is a joy so far it smooth to clean and does not appear to pick up fouling easily. As it stands I am just going to shoot it and enjoy it as I dont think it really needs any further breaking in. Next stop is to start working up a load for it as I zeroed it in using some cheap federal I had laying about.
See post #36.
That's proper break-in. ~Muir
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