Yeah 100% agree. My current permission is 1500 + acres spread out around Gloucester. Each area has different topography, size of area and footpaths etc to consider. All through my interview they reiterated the onus is always on the shooter so the whole open / closed license is abit of an odd one in my opinion
Permission question
- Thread starter JackDavis
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No you don't. Verbal permission from a landowner who is also the holder of the shooting rights is all that's required.
But if the owner of the shooting rights is not the owner of the land, then you do need written permission from him (ie, the sporting rights owner) that you must carry with you. Otherwise the owner of the land can kick you off.
Verbal permission for anything? ... it's only worth the paper it's not written on, I will do no shooting anywhere without a written authority.
I think folk are getting a little muddled here. You need permission to shoot, and whether it's verbal, written or sent in smoke signals, it's still permission.
Now, I won't shoot anywhere without written permission because if something goes wrong, there is no evidence of that word of mouth agreement and the smoke signals have blown away long ago. It's not unheard of for a land owner to simply deny any knowledge of a shooter on their land if the s*** hits the fan. Whether you want to take that risk or not is up to you. But you don't legally need it in writing, strictly speaking.
Now, I won't shoot anywhere without written permission because if something goes wrong, there is no evidence of that word of mouth agreement and the smoke signals have blown away long ago. It's not unheard of for a land owner to simply deny any knowledge of a shooter on their land if the s*** hits the fan. Whether you want to take that risk or not is up to you. But you don't legally need it in writing, strictly speaking.
shakey jake
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i had written permission once, through a friend turned put the guy worked on the farm and wanted a goose for himself. farmer was very fair, police got a bit awkward but calmed down in the end
Written permission is a good idea, it can be as simple as a text confirming you are okay to go out so you have something to fall back on.
The OP should use his current situation to push for an open certificate, even if he waits to get 6 months of FAC shooting under his belt.
The OP should use his current situation to push for an open certificate, even if he waits to get 6 months of FAC shooting under his belt.
This is my plan mate. I held FAC previously so have prior experience and submitted evidence for being mentored etc for my current FAC.
Lot of people in my area have open tickets so it’s easy to get someone there whenever the farmer wants it
If that is the case, I would push for it now, on the basis of previous experience and the fact you are getting asked to sort problem animals and not able to.
This was my feeling but I’ve only just had my FAC back ( Took 17 months! ) and I haven’t been out much as I’ve been buying the kit etc and weather has been horrendous so was thinking they may refuse it
My current permission is around 1500 acres and is spread out around Gloucester so each bit I shoot on will have different topography, backstops foot paths etc etc and I’m deemed safe enough to shoot across that
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