Reality check, used gun value.

[straightpull6547]

This might ruffle a few feathers but it needs to be aired...

gents, when selling second hand guns please be realistic with your asking price.

look on gun trader, see what similar are selling for, or net selling!

factor in useful customisation, eg, barrels, stocks etc

example.

old tikkas/remmys are worth about £4-500 if in good nick, adding a £500 (new) stock will add about £300 ish, a custom tube might add another £300. bling/tat does not add value.

so a semi custom with stock/tube might be £1000 ish

a rebarrelled old gun with unknown round count is worth what it is, an old gun.

should make a good discussion

 

[Rory]

It's the same with vehicles - highly modded and or personalised vehicles will never recoup the expense, and you need someone who wanted the exact same mods you've made. See it all the time, most want as stock as possible to make their own mods or keep original.

 

[teabag_46]

If a price seems too high, there could always be the chance that the wife has put her foot down, and said "get rid of one of those guns" - shooter keeps her quiet, by advertising at an unrealistic price, and ends up keeping it because "Nobody wants to buy it darling".

 

[FISH BOY]

If a price seems too high, there could always be the chance that the wife has put her foot down, and said "get rid of one of those guns" - shooter keeps her quiet, by advertising at an unrealistic price, and ends up keeping it because "Nobody wants to buy it darling".

ha ha - but on the flip - she sees what you originally paid for it and bashes your eardrums for that in the meantime...

 

[eldon]

Not sure I see the issue, nobody says you have to be realistic and some are more than others.

If the price is too high don't buy it!
Quite simple really.

 

[DCG]

Ultimately any secondhand item, or new come to that, is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. For a sale to take place you’ve got to have a willing buyer and a willing seller.
You might equally direct you’re vitriol at those chancers on here who make some stupidly low offers.
just my tuppence worth.

 

[Klenchblaize]

"Gents, when selling second-hand" bullets "please be realistic with your asking price"!

K

 

[bluesako]

ive got tons of once fired primers please make me an offer

 

[bobjs]

This might ruffle a few feathers but it needs to be aired...

gents, when selling second hand guns please be realistic with your asking price.

look on gun trader, see what similar are selling for, or net selling!

factor in useful customisation, eg, barrels, stocks etc

example.

old tikkas/remmys are worth about £4-500 if in good nick, adding a £500 (new) stock will add about £300 ish, a custom tube might add another £300. bling/tat does not add value.

so a semi custom with stock/tube might be £1000 ish

a rebarrelled old gun with unknown round count is worth what it is, an old gun.

should make a good discussion

Should I prepare myself for a silly offer then Gary.?

to be totally open and frank I have had 2 silly offers for both of my 20 tacs and I told the buyers where to go, and 1 silly offer on my br that's also unemployed and they are all still here, and as you have said in your opinion that some folk are asking to much. I think my asking prices have been ok because there have been extras in some cases with the rifle.


in simple terms, if you don't want to pay that much try/offer a deal ? asking the seller to remove things you may want to replace with you're own stuff/remove and use your on things, change or buy a new moderator perhaps.

personally If I think its worth the asking price I don't not argue I just buy it as its what I want, I am also unsure where you get the cost of a new or lightly used custom tube from? some new tubes with fitting and proofing can cost well over the £700 mark, be it fitted to a Lawton action or as you say an old tikka action.

and as for what you may call bling or tat, it may mean nothing to someone who may have shoot loads of dosh to add what they want later, or better still have their rifle built to their spec in the first place, (not everyone has loads of cash) but to some other folk having a custom bolt knob, or the action barrel and moderator all bead blasted to match means a lot depending on the price, and don't forget when its done in the first place it all costs money its never done free. and it saves them time and some cash if its already done.

and as we all know you never get back what you have spent, unless you sell on evil bay where things go for silly money,

bob.

 

[Heym SR20]

If a rifle is still effectively new then take retail price, knock 20% off for the VAT, and then knock another 10 to 20% off. By New, it needs to be unblemished with all its box and paperwork etc. and within a year or two of manufacture.

Otherwise a 2nd rifle is £500 to £600.

Calibre - 243, 6.5x55, 270 or 308 - keep the above figure.

Big game calibre - double it.

Anything else reduce it a touch. Magnum Calibres - add some free ammo to keep the price high.

Latest sexy must have calibre - well there will be somebody who must have latest toy.

If its something special then £1,000. By special I mean a beautifully built rifle with a very good action, barrel and stock. If its a collectors item - well add a few more on. A god Mause actioned British Rifle in good shooting condition is probably £1500 to £2000 with a scope.

If it has a good scope and mounts - add £300.

If it has latest generation top german optics - add another £500 to £800.

If it is very nice and clean a top brand then call it £800

If its a well used rifle that was originally a budget value - then £250 to £300

If stock is shabby, barrel and bluing all worn - its scrap value is really what the action is worth as a donor.


If its a Blazer - well they are on their own price bracket.

 

[VSS]

Thanks to our licensing system, which generally puts FAC holders in the position of having to sell the old toy in order to be able to have the new one, it's a buyer's market.
An item is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. You can advertise it at any price you like, just don't be surprised if it doesn't sell. You've then got the choice of either accepting a lower offer or paying rfd storage fees for an extended period. (Or keeping it and cancelling the order for a replacement!)

 

[bobjs]

If a rifle is still effectively new then take retail price, knock 20% off for the VAT, and then knock another 10 to 20% off. By New, it needs to be unblemished with all its box and paperwork etc. and within a year or two of manufacture.

Otherwise a 2nd rifle is £500 to £600.

Calibre - 243, 6.5x55, 270 or 308 - keep the above figure.

Big game calibre - double it.

Anything else reduce it a touch. Magnum Calibres - add some free ammo to keep the price high.

Latest sexy must have calibre - well there will be somebody who must have latest toy.

If its something special then £1,000. By special I mean a beautifully built rifle with a very good action, barrel and stock. If its a collectors item - well add a few more on. A god Mause actioned British Rifle in good shooting condition is probably £1500 to £2000 with a scope.

If it has a good scope and mounts - add £300.

If it has latest generation top german optics - add another £500 to £800.

If it is very nice and clean a top brand then call it £800

If its a well used rifle that was originally a budget value - then £250 to £300

If stock is shabby, barrel and bluing all worn - its scrap value is really what the action is worth as a donor.


If its a Blazer - well they are on their own price bracket.

spoken like a true bargain hunter

and the only thing I would use a blaser for is to beat out a fire and even then that's to good a job for one, crash helmet on and under cover,

bob.

 

[timbrayford]

If you can get hold of them prices realised at auction sales are a good guide, not just for high value items such as Holts do but also local auction house such as the Southern Counties Sporting Sale.

 

[20-250]

There are well thought out and realistic opinions here.
As unfortunate as it may be for those selling, our special rifles are worth only what someone else will pay. Seeing the same rifles advertised over and over again tells its own tale. If advertised to the right people at the right price, they’ll sell.

 

[deerstalker.308]

It’s also worth remembering that not everyone is desperate to let their gear go and may not be in any hurry or necessity to accept a low price, if you’re patient, and hold out, you never know who might come along. If a quick sale is needed then granted, a degree of realism is needed.

 

[I. Farticus]

All good advice, and I would also add that not everyone in Buying Mode is on SD...

Put your rifles, guns, optics, mods etc up on guntrader and gunstar for a much broader reach.

 

[20-250]

Put your rifles, guns, optics, mods etc up on guntrader and gunstar for a much broader reach.

It may be that the OP was thinking of rifles which had been on there already...

 

[hendrix's rifle]

Easy this one, if it's too much don't buy it, if you've looked around and can't find another like it or any cheaper it's priced right!

 

[bobjs]

It’s also worth remembering that not everyone is desperate to let their gear go and may not be in any hurry or necessity to accept a low price, if you’re patient, and hold out, you never know who might come along. If a quick sale is needed then granted, a degree of realism is needed.

All good advice, and I would also add that not everyone in Buying Mode is on SD...

Put your rifles, guns, optics, mods etc up on guntrader and gunstar for a much broader reach.

both very good statements, i am in no hurry to sell, hence me telling others to go take a long run a long a short pier, i have periodically placed my rifles on here and guntrader from time to time, there is truth in the fact that at some point there may just be the right person at the right time just pops up.

this site is one of the most visited on the uk network so i feel even if the 20 tacs and the 6 mmbr not for stalking we all turn our hand to other sections of the sport at different times of the year,

bob.

 

[jon2]

It seems that the folk who “customise” their rifles think it adds value when in actual fact it de-values it. A prime example of this is the trend to flute bolts on a Sako 75. What was one of the best production rifles then becomes a butchered and ruined rifle.

Customised in my book more than often = ruined, butchered or generally arsed around with.