Recoil Management

[Mike1979]

yes, but i hear all that hysterical deer laugther makes the meat go sour, - one more thing you CM boys hadnt thought about lol ,-)

And What do you mean the world isnt flat!? How else is the mighty 270 supposed to be able to use it's amazing never ending flat shootability to shoot dear from side of the earth to the other ?

nah, i joke, i have never had or even used a 270 personally, but the hunters i know who do, all love it! In fact a 270 or one of the 7x64 and 65R are probably cartridges that i'd like to try out in the future. Unmoderated, and carrying a wild looking beard that would make Zeus himself nod in approval
But If i do, i'd like it to be in a very light Kiplauff however, and in that case i'll probably need all the shooting and recoil control techniques mentioned in this thread.

Like your logic and sense of humor .... worthy of a Creed perhaps

The .270 is much like my .243 and the creed....it kills everything its pointed out if I do my bit ...if I dont well its not the rifles fault

 

[Scipio]

Like your logic and sense of humor .... worthy of a Creed perhaps

The .270 is much like my .243 and the creed....it kills everything its pointed out if I do my bit ...if I dont well its not the rifles fault

haha, likewise buddy ,-) - and i actually find the 6 Creed quite an interesting cartridge! but dont tell anyone! I am not sure i'd be able to handle all the make up banter coming my way, and i dont have time to grow and maintain a man bun of the necessary standard either i fear. ,)

 

[Tim.243]

A very very good question, but perhaps one for it's own thread? Unless of course you mean if it ran off because of ones lack of ability to control recoil well, and missing the shot, and how one can work on that

Thank you just waiting for Tim B's reply.

 

[Mike1979]

haha, likewise buddy ,-) - and i actually find the 6 Creed quite an interesting cartridge! but dont tell anyone! I am not sure i'd be able to handle all the make up banter coming my way, and i dont have time to grow and maintain a man bun of the necessary standard either i fear. ,)

Lets set the record straight..Im ugly, unkempt and manscaping is as far from the truth as it gets with me so you should be ok. I love the banter that comes with owning one and frankly its as good as anything else over the ranges I shoot to (300 ish yards give or take). Rifle is big and heavy but I love it, its accurate and handles 120 grain copper to a decent degree of accuracy ...what more do I need

 

[Tim.243]

I do a few range days over the ‘close’ season, but I still have that small bit of anxiety at the start of the season when I put the crosshairs on that first deer.

There is no part of the year when deer are not in season, for myself if it is not deer then foxes fill in the gaps.

 

[Tim.243]

Perhaps this is where some practice is beneficial... for that recoil management.
70yds

You still never answered the "how do I find a clay day for teal on last light in a gale of wind"

 

[takbok]

I see you've recovered from the recoil of this morning @Tim.243

 

[Tim.243]

I see you've recovered from the recoil of this morning @Tim.243

Yes it is like being in our Watts App group 3+-1

 

[AM_Lillycombe]

Recoil Management. There are endless discussions on “my rifle won’t group”. And I have seen people go through the doom loop of constantly changing rifles and adding yet more gear to try and make them shoot better.

There seems to be a big trend towards heavy rifles with light recoiling cartridges where recoil is a non issue. You set the rifle on bags and a little whisper touch on the trigger and tiny little group. I think PCP air rifles have a lot to answer for.

Yet most stalking rifles have a reasonable level of recoil, and are light enough that you do need manage this. Video shows this in stark reality. My two take aways are

1) hold the rifle with a firm handshake type grip, and squeeze like a handshake. Not something limp wristed.

2) most of us are happy with a 12 bore. Most shotguns have more recoil than a rifle. And have you ever been really hurt by recoil. I think we have all had a bit of red ness or black bruising, worse still a whack in the eye with a scope.

Have a watch - some good hints and tips.

Very interesting thanks for posting.

I’m new this year to stalking and have made a range at home.
I definitely have a first shot of the day flinch. The longer I go without shooting the 6.5Creedmoor the worse it gets.
Being conscious of being new I always shoot 3 to 6 shots from quad sticks at 200m at an 8 inch target before every outing.

I realise this isn’t possible for everyone but I guess my point is as others have written, using your gun regularly will definitely help against flinching.

Year to date:
150m fallow (last night)
243m sika
243m sika (came out of the wood to look at the other one)
305m roe

All dropped instantly, couple shots were a bit high and ruined some meat though.

 

[Mike1979]

Very interesting thanks for posting.

I’m new this year to stalking and have made a range at home.
I definitely have a first shot of the day flinch. The longer I go without shooting the 6.5Creedmoor the worse it gets.
Being conscious of being new I always shoot 3 to 6 shots from quad sticks at 200m at an 8 inch target before every outing.

I realise this isn’t possible for everyone but I guess my point is as others have written, using your gun regularly will definitely help against flinching.

Year to date:
150m fallow (last night)
243m sika
243m sika (came out of the wood to look at the other one)
305m roe

All dropped instantly, couple shots were a bit high and ruined some meat though.

Cant fault your progress so far and better to practice more then you need if it gets the results. As your confidence builds you will probably do a lot less on the targets and the targets will get smaller. We are all different so whatever works for you is all that really counts

 

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I’m new this year to stalking

305m roe

 

[AM_Lillycombe]

If it helps the guide I was with also had his gun aimed on the deer at the same time in case I missed and the poor roe had a pretty horrendous limp (probably hit by a car).

We’d been creeping around for almost 2 hours trying to get a safe shot and the right side of the wind. Was quite fun actually.


P.s. I’ve shot all my life just not stalking.

 

[Mike1979]

If it helps the guide I was with also had his gun aimed on the deer at the same time in case I missed and the poor roe had a pretty horrendous limp (probably hit by a car).

We’d been creeping around for almost 2 hours trying to get a safe shot and the right side of the wind. Was quite fun actually.


P.s. I’ve shot all my life just not stalking.

You made a fatal mistake and admitted to owning a creed...that opens up the flood gates for ridicule (I know I own one as well)

 

[AM_Lillycombe]

You made a fatal mistake and admitted to owning a creed...that opens up the flood gates for ridicule (I know I own one as well)

Would it help if I said the 6.5 Creedmoor is the only calibre that you could ever need or would that make it worse?

 

[Mike1979]

Would it help if I said the 6.5 Creedmoor is the only calibre that you could ever need or would that make it worse?

That will do it mate...despite being clearly correct there are lots (ignorant fools) who will disagree They either live in caves or bogs and normally love .270s...you will see who they are shortly as they emerge from shady locations (Norfolk and N Wales are 2 known examples)

 

[dropmdead]

Many years ago i had my first 270 and managed to get a flinch - the home loads were just a bit too sharp in loads given it was a light weight sporter, pared down to the last ounce....
The minute i realised what happened (on a deer and flinched), it was time to step away from game with this particular rifle and reassess.
It was plenty of trigger time on sticks then prone. Once i got my head around it (60 rounds later...), it was back to being confident once again.

 

[Twodogs]

Would it help if I said the 6.5 Creedmoor is the only calibre that you could ever need or would that make it worse?

Creedmore is a chambering, 6.5mm is the calibre. Plenty of other 6.5’s chamberings available, as well as …

 

[finnbear270]

Training tool for flinchers, .270 Winchester 130 grain. Learn to shoot. Or if you are really struggling, .300 Winchester Magnum.

 

[timbrayford]

What happens when you do miss a deer? How do you address what you did wrong as it has run off!

Examine the shot scene, the one that has cropped up is a tree branch forward of the muzzle that is close enough not to be visible through the scope

 

[Tim.243]

Examine the shot scene, the one that has cropped up is a tree branch forward of the muzzle that is close enough not to be visible through the scope

So then you check for a clear path next time!