Best value proper off-roader, and also a very comfortable motorway cruiser, is the Toyota Landcruiser 'Commercial Utility' - available in both SWB and LWB. Strangely not on the Radar of most off-road / Stalking enthousiast. (But very popular in all the worlds trouble spots in tough conditions...) . If you can find an almost new low Mileage 2021 model you'll get the newly upgraded '21 engine (2.8 Ltr.) with more power but more fuel efficient than the '20 or before models. Only drawback is just 2 front seats - the rear seats and all the unnecessary electronic luxuries have been stripped out, hence the 'Utility' label. You'll get TWO of these for the price of ONE Landrover! A no-brainer in my view.What vehicles do you use-and what would you recommend in the second hand market (mad as it is )?
People seem to love jimnys, and double cabs abound. Any not to go for?
I have a defender 90, but I think Ill be parting with it.
Ive seen them all over africa and in australia. I was under the impression they were difficult to import to the UK..Best value proper off-roader, and also a very comfortable motorway cruiser, is the Toyota Landcruiser 'Commercial Utility' - available in both SWB and LWB. Strangely not on the Radar of most off-road / Stalking enthousiast. (But very popular in all the worlds trouble spots in tough conditions...) . If you can find an almost new low Mileage 2021 model you'll get the newly upgraded '21 engine (2.8 Ltr.) with more power but more fuel efficient than the '20 or before models. Only drawback is just 2 front seats - the rear seats and all the unnecessary electronic luxuries have been stripped out, hence the 'Utility' label. You'll get TWO of these for the price of ONE Landrover! A no-brainer in my view.
At least when its gone you may still have all your teeth in your head, and the constant draft from the doors will stop the ear acheWhat vehicles do you use-and what would you recommend in the second hand market (mad as it is )?
People seem to love jimnys, and double cabs abound. Any not to go for?
I have a defender 90, but I think Ill be parting with it.
I think I was! Id definitely have a 70 series!two different beasts - you are thinking of the 70series landcruiser.... what Erik is talkign about above is just the standard Landcruiser you get in the UK but its got 2 seats and a basic interior.
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Useful to know. I dont need to put reds in the back but I agree 90 is not great for anything bigBefore the rangers I drove a defender 90 HT for over 10 years great off road but useless for putting anything other than small red sika fallow in the back with the bigger animals it was terrible.
So all in a ranger suits me very well and I'm sure other open back pickups would do the same.
I like the rangers a lot parts when u need them are cheap and easy to source insurance prices are also very good, and when you need off road it's really good not a defender but more than enough for most situations.Useful to know. I dont need to put reds in the back but I agree 90 is not great for anything big
trouble is the coppers pull you over on the m6 on the way to scotlandBest value proper off roader, Argocat, beat any 4x4 off road![]()

Just use A and B roads, mind you, the top speed is about 20 mphtrouble is the coppers pull you over on the m6 on the way to scotland![]()