You know it's time to leave the range when....
- Thread starter Muir
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RIP mr weed .I hope his first pistol shooting experience is a good one! My son is a dyed in the wool pistolero, coming to own at least a dozen by the time he was eighteen.
That said, he was always a decent rifle shot. The picture below was taken in the Mexican border in Baja California. A landowner let us on to kill ground squirrels -that's the little body my son is kneeling in front of. My boy spend almost 30 minutes 'on gun' waiting for a shot through that alfalfa stubble. The distance was 130 yards. The rifle his 77/17 (HMR) Ruger, and the temperature was 126F in the shade. A decade later he remains a steely eyed marksman.~Muir
JAYB
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I hope his first pistol shooting experience is a good one! My son is a dyed in the wool pistolero, coming to own at least a dozen by the time he was eighteen.
That said, he was always a decent rifle shot. The picture below was taken in the Mexican border in Baja California. A landowner let us on to kill ground squirrels -that's the little body my son is kneeling in front of. My boy spend almost 30 minutes 'on gun' waiting for a shot through that alfalfa stubble. The distance was 130 yards. The rifle his 77/17 (HMR) Ruger, and the temperature was 126F in the shade. A decade later he remains a steely eyed marksman.~Muir
Got to admit young Andy can shoot, but don't tell him I said that
John
enfieldspares
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The more you practice the luckier you get. I've certainly known pistols shots who were awesome to watch.
Thirty five plus years ago at Bisley, in my mid-twenties, I was on the pistol range at the old Pistol AD event. Setting up to shoot my. 45 Colt 1911 in one of the "classic" events.
Anyway on the adjacent firing point is a scruffy looking old boy. Tatty tweed jacket which was patched at the elbows with leather repaired cuffs etc..
Courteously I asked, being clearly some forty years the junior man, if he'd like to shoot his practice series, six shots at twenty yards, first. To which he agreed.
He takes a. 455 S & W Triplock out of his case, loads it, factory 265 lead round nose ammunition, and makes ready.
Firing offhand (single handed unsupported) using double action only his six shots in one continuous string in about
twenty or so plus seconds.
First shot dead centre bull, next slightly enlarges that hole, third enlarges it slightly more as does the fourth.
Last two of the six go straight through this now three quarter inch hole just visibly rippling its sides as they do.
He winds his target in and as it comes back into the bench the name in the bottom corner of it becomes readable.
That, the only occasion but I ever saw him shoot, out of many subsequent pleasant times, was my first encounter with Wilfred Ward.
Thirty five plus years ago at Bisley, in my mid-twenties, I was on the pistol range at the old Pistol AD event. Setting up to shoot my. 45 Colt 1911 in one of the "classic" events.
Anyway on the adjacent firing point is a scruffy looking old boy. Tatty tweed jacket which was patched at the elbows with leather repaired cuffs etc..
Courteously I asked, being clearly some forty years the junior man, if he'd like to shoot his practice series, six shots at twenty yards, first. To which he agreed.
He takes a. 455 S & W Triplock out of his case, loads it, factory 265 lead round nose ammunition, and makes ready.
Firing offhand (single handed unsupported) using double action only his six shots in one continuous string in about
twenty or so plus seconds.
First shot dead centre bull, next slightly enlarges that hole, third enlarges it slightly more as does the fourth.
Last two of the six go straight through this now three quarter inch hole just visibly rippling its sides as they do.
He winds his target in and as it comes back into the bench the name in the bottom corner of it becomes readable.
That, the only occasion but I ever saw him shoot, out of many subsequent pleasant times, was my first encounter with Wilfred Ward.
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I'll try to keep it from him, just for your sake. I ned to find a third party photo place OTHER then this f-ing photobucket. Suggestions, Cuz?~MuirGot to admit young Andy can shoot, but don't tell him I said that
John
You've got to love encounters like that. I am reminded: There is an American Legion shoot next month at our gun range and they are having 'classic' events. My S&W 2nd Hand Ejector 44 Special will need dusting off. ~Muir
Tom D
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A coupe of years ago I was shooting paper with the vartarg, I can't remember why. Anyway the target was at 100 yds but at around 70 yds a clump of willowherb had grown up, it must have been about this time of year as it was in full flower. There was a light breeze and one of the stems kept swaying into my sight picture, it was off putting. I decided to try and shoot it even though it was moving in the wind. I was timing the sway waiting to take the shot, I fired and the little 20cal bullet must have shot right through one side of the stem because it slowly went over like a felled tree. It was far more satisfying than any of the groups I shot that day.
Many years ago when I was a prison officer one of the duties was outside patrol which was a fair bit of woodland with some open spaces and a bank with a lot of rabbits.I used to carry a black widow catapult and try and shoot the odd rabbit.One day I was showing a new lad around and we were talking about hunting and shooting and I had just mentioned you always take the last goose in the skein they were often the youngest and tenderest when 4 pigeons flew over about 25 yards up when I let fly and low and behold the last of the 4 pigeons fell out of the sky.Lucky shot nah do it every week.
We used to fell sow thistles with 12 ft/lbs .22 air rifles. Great fun, normally needed a few pellets in the thicker part of the stalk.
JAYB
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I await your evaluation, Oh Wise One.~Muir
JAYB
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Hard luck
Hi Muir, Did exactly the same as you many years ago.
In my early teens, I bought a BSA Cadet Major (air rifle) from a friend. I was shooting at targets around 20 yards in the back garden and my dad said "If you could hit that dandelion clock, I will give you half a crown". It was a couple of yards further on and I took careful aim. At the shot, it fell over, partially severing the stem. I didn't get the money as I didn't hit the clock.
Hi Muir, Did exactly the same as you many years ago.
In my early teens, I bought a BSA Cadet Major (air rifle) from a friend. I was shooting at targets around 20 yards in the back garden and my dad said "If you could hit that dandelion clock, I will give you half a crown". It was a couple of yards further on and I took careful aim. At the shot, it fell over, partially severing the stem. I didn't get the money as I didn't hit the clock.
Thanks for the thoughts, it was really successful to be honest. We visited a range in Phoenix and shot a Beretta 9mm PX4, a Sig 320, a Springfield Armoury .45 and a S&W 44 mag, followed by a few rounds with an M1A. All were shot with full power loads and he loved it. He would have kept going well beyond the 350 round mark where we stopped. He would have gone back every day we were there. Shame we can't partake of this past time in the UK.
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Things change. Maybe with hard work the pigs will fly someday.
Tomorrow at our gun club we are having a bowling pin shoot. Lever action rifle at 100yds and handgun at 50yds -thirty pins in a set and you have 30 seconds to knock down as may as you can. I'm undecided as to what to bring: I was thinking of my Springfield XD Tactical 45 because it is superbly accurate, has a great trigger, and holds 12 rounds.(2 magazine changes) My XD Mod2 9mm is new, the trigger has not broken in yet, but it holds 16 rounds.(1 magazine change) Then there is my Kel Tec 22 magnum. Trigger not as good, accurate but not as controllable as the other two, marginal knockdown power, but hold 30 round in the magazine. What would you choose? Or do it old school and use a revolver? ~Muir
(They are thinking of having a 'cajones grande' class: handguns at 100 yards, same time limit)
Tomorrow at our gun club we are having a bowling pin shoot. Lever action rifle at 100yds and handgun at 50yds -thirty pins in a set and you have 30 seconds to knock down as may as you can. I'm undecided as to what to bring: I was thinking of my Springfield XD Tactical 45 because it is superbly accurate, has a great trigger, and holds 12 rounds.(2 magazine changes) My XD Mod2 9mm is new, the trigger has not broken in yet, but it holds 16 rounds.(1 magazine change) Then there is my Kel Tec 22 magnum. Trigger not as good, accurate but not as controllable as the other two, marginal knockdown power, but hold 30 round in the magazine. What would you choose? Or do it old school and use a revolver? ~Muir
(They are thinking of having a 'cajones grande' class: handguns at 100 yards, same time limit)
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enfieldspares
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Do they have to clear the table to count? Or just be knocked down? If the first I go .45 ACP with the RCBS cast "Keith Type" 201 grains SWC. If not the 9mm. But if you richochet a pin over then you've a smaller vertical target to hit. Me? I fact as accuracy is vital I'd go with the .45 ACP and either a shoudered bullet of the Speer Lawman "coffee cup" 200 grain if it works and you've the budget for them!
enfieldspares
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No. It won't happen. We had the chance to push back when the UK held the Olympic Games and the Commonwealth Games. And didn't make political capital and advantage of it. Plus the few sanctioned Olympic shooters in the UK would sooner toady to the powers that be than make a political point.
Muir you are old enough to remember Mexico '68 and Stokely Carmichael? The impact that it made? I was eleven years old but still remember the three.
Imagine if at the 2012 London Olympics if the UK Pistol Team had, at the firing point, when their series started, benched their pistols, made them safe, then walked off the firing point, and refused to fire a shot, and threw their Olympic passes on the floor? In solidarity with the rest of the UK shooters who lost their pistols in 1998?
No! Too much of a self-serving, self appointed, "I'm alright Jack" coterie. British shooters are all too happy to sell out other British shooters.
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Any SD members qualify....lol
Tim.243
