Mine didn’t even make the door step!Mag just landed, ears must be burnin'
BASC to remove "Legal Expenses Cover" wef 31 July 2020
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Kid the only thing it covered was “unfair refusals and revocations of firearms certificates” then it sounds like a good decision to me. I wonder how many of those cases were won (even the ones brought). I’d guess damn few. Socialising a million pound a year cost across the membership to let 75 people try and mostly fail to get a certificate reinstated is a bit ludicrous.
The real problem there is the licensing system- it seems to make it far too hard to come back against refusal of certificates for bad reasons.
The real problem there is the licensing system- it seems to make it far too hard to come back against refusal of certificates for bad reasons.
OK, put the money into a “Judicial review” fund ........... snowball chocolate T pot etc etc.
sgurrdamh
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There's plenty of reasons I have issues with BASC and other organisations; I've aired these before to BASC staff and other orgs too and have mixed responses. For my sins I have also seen a little of the trapping debates at government level (which makes me sound far more important than I am). What that taught me is that the idea I previously thought a great one; that of "one org one voice" is not the way to work in our political system.
Six voices are much louder than one, no matter how many that one represents. I am glad therefore we have multiple organisations.
What I will say is that looking at organisations as predominately an insurance provider is stupid. Join organisations to get involved with supporting our wildlife, way of life, and in some cases profession. If it also gives you some insurance or legal cover that's great, but every time you pick up a rifle you are "using" those organisations and the thousands of hours they've spent lobbying for our rights to stalk deer.
If you don't join any of them, and don't engage in the politics, then you have no voice when the things you love are taken away. Be damn sure that the politicians we are desperate to influence aren't sitting listening to people moan and bitch on a forum or facebook.
Six voices are much louder than one, no matter how many that one represents. I am glad therefore we have multiple organisations.
What I will say is that looking at organisations as predominately an insurance provider is stupid. Join organisations to get involved with supporting our wildlife, way of life, and in some cases profession. If it also gives you some insurance or legal cover that's great, but every time you pick up a rifle you are "using" those organisations and the thousands of hours they've spent lobbying for our rights to stalk deer.
If you don't join any of them, and don't engage in the politics, then you have no voice when the things you love are taken away. Be damn sure that the politicians we are desperate to influence aren't sitting listening to people moan and bitch on a forum or facebook.
May be true but now the police know that no disputes will result in basc taking legal action, which surly is not good news.
Wonder how hard basc tried to find an alternative provider for the legal expenses cover, after all it is only a few pounds to include it in car insurance and that must be used and abused a lot.
Do you know of any incidences when BASC have taken legal action against the police? Most CC know they are a toothless dog and simply refuse to engage with them
Personally no, however now the police know it will definitely never be the case, does that help us?
The political path basc prefer has certainly not been able to resolve the medical reporting mess, just think they would want to keep all options on the table.
I would sooner pay another few quid on the membership fee than lose forever the ability to use the legal cost insurance because as with all insurance you never know when you may need it.
Conor O'Gorman
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If you are a BASC member and have any queries or feedback about BASC's notice regarding legal expenses insurance please email me at conor.ogorman@basc.org.uk with your membership number and I will ensure that someone gets back to you.
I'm a former member, I may join again if you could assure me you are lobbying MP's for the return of the "since your last application" wording regarding the medical questionnaire
Little point when you have already made the decision to end the cover on the 31st July. Cannot see you changing your mind just because you get a few emails.
Quarrybank
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As a long time member of BASC it is disappointing to find out about a material change to insurance cover via a Third Party, ie this site. I do see the note under news on the BASC website but no mention in the magazine that landed yesterday. I have sent a note to BASC Scotland about this so will look forward to an explanation. I do note that very few other organisations offer this cover but the change, if it has to happen, could have been handled better.
Roestalker39
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Might just gain an org with some balls though .....
Lacking in most of them unfortunately
Roestalker39
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Not all
TH4
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Only ludicrous if you are not one of the ones trying to get their certificates back. If it only gets justice done for one person then I think it is worth it.
Sounds like the "Odd" or "Few" are to go under the bus.
JabaliHunter
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I’m all right; **** the rest, eh?
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