BASC to remove "Legal Expenses Cover" wef 31 July 2020

Well here we are at 300 replies,most denigrating BASC,if for example 50% of the respondents are BASC members then that is less than 1% of the membership, until the membership plummets then there will be no change..If 20k were complaining then you would see a different response.
After being legally gagged over the Richard Ali affair I can only hope that BASC descends into the pit of Hades and another phoenix arises that better represents the shooting industry.
Keep pressing the self destruct button BASC.
 
This image was posted on Pigeon Watch. I had to smile at the last sentence. Given, of course, the recent BASC musings on lead shot. Maybe someone else wants to cut and paste the picture below and start a thread on it elsewhere on SD?

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Probably the crassest letter written in the history of shooting organisations and by none other than BASC's Vice President. Unbelievable.
 
There are two elements to the current situation.

1) Is the cover viable, or uneconomical ?

2) If it's not viable, are the members who have paid for the cover, and still have cover remaining, entitled to a refund, OR, entitled to cancel the policy, and get a refund proportional to the outstanding cover, on the basis, that the policy is no longer fit for the purpose it was bought ?
3. No prior consultation with the membership to achieve a consensus of views. If only the BASC management had learned the lesson from the Lead Shot debacle, it is all very disappointing.
 
I would be supporting an approach to the REAL NRA, but not holding out much hope of any interest from them.:coat:

From what i understand they have the same problems as basc in some ways, overpaid top brass who cant be got rid of and no real bite for fighting the stuff people want sorting
 
@Connor O’Gorman
I have spoken to you before about medical forms and a judicial review and the barristers report . The results were like trying to teach a pig to sing I.e. a complete waste of time.Next came the lead shot ban are you all on crack at the mill ???
What do you all think your playing at ?
Do you want BASC to implode ??
No members=no BASC .
If the one thing that set you out from the rest goes !Were does that leave you and the rest of the staff ?
ps I will not be bothering to email you at the mill as there is no point as no one listens to the members .
 
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If you email them and give your phone number.
They call and tell you how wonderful they all are and how many positive things they don't do for you or me.
 
So you’ll be changing ?
Thats a very good question. My renewal is due very shortly, but there have been some positives that I've experienced from BASC, such as the new vehicle discount and they intervened successfully on a deer management issue with the Deer Initiative before it folded. I shall probably await the result of the BASC Council elections before deciding.
 
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Thats a very good question. My renewal is due very shortly, but there have been some positives that I've experienced from BASC, such as the new vehicle discount and they intervened successfully on a deer management issue with the Deer Initiative before it folded. I shall probably await the result of the BASC Council elections before deciding.
And this is why they will never learn , no matter how many betrayals for some bizzare reason some people will still hand over cash to them , out of interest if you were as dissatisfied with service in any other actor would you keep giving them you’re money ?
 
I can understand why BASC has so many members. People of all ages that are getting into shooting these days generally do so by having a go at pheasant shooting, get a shotgun certificate, buy a gun, join BASC and seek to join a pheasant shoot. Or if rich, take days here and there. So it has a steady flow of newcomers. It's no real wonder that BASC's main interest is the game bird shooter. The lad with a catapult then an air rifle, then a folding .410 who graduates into having a lifelong hobby or even a job is now pretty much consigned to history. Today's new shooter is more likely to be an empty nester with disposable income who doesn't like golf.

As those that will progress and try other aspects of the sport, diversifying into clays, vermin control, paper shooting and stalking or whatever, not only do those shooters generally become more knowledgeable in all aspects of shooting, they see the flaws with BASC. They obviously also discover that there's other alternatives in terms of shooting organisations that do as much (or as less) as BASC at a cheaper price. So BASC loses them then. But the trickle at the back end is more than compensated for by those coming into the sport.

BASC needs to put the same effort it does into game shooting into other types of shooting. But I can't se that happening with the likes of Peter Glenser there. That letter of his really is quite unbelievable. Does he still practice as a QC? If I find myself in a bit of bother, I think I'd pass on him if that letter is anything to go by.
 
Given the muddle over how much the legal insurance costed, were BASC council correctly briefed? If they weren't they should be very angry and need to review the decision based on the correct info.
 
I have contacted the nra in the us and they will accept members from the uk.
Have asked if they would consider setting up here in the uk and awaiting reply.

I'm not certain how that would actually help anyone in the UK though ?

They are unlikely to offer UK shooting insurance, legal advice, or much else a UK shooter would require ?

Unless they did set up in the UK, but I think that unlikely, as the UK market is tiny compared to the US.
 
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And this is why they will never learn , no matter how many betrayals for some bizzare reason some people will still hand over cash to them , out of interest if you were as dissatisfied with service in any other actor would you keep giving them you’re money ?
If it was as simple as that I'd agree, but the other matter that I mentioned was of greater significance.
 
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