Best Calibre for Deer with Copper Bullets
stevenedwards
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With the help of Richard at Yew Tree I have an 80gr load in my .243 working really well and giving a lot of confidence. I am now getting together a load for the Creedmore 112gr Yew Tree bullets and I don't expect any issues once the load is finished. You could call Richard at Yew Tree he has a lot of experience and is keen to help. Buy British !
You forget:
1.Minimum point blank range
2.Wind drift
Point 2 especially relevant if shooting in 20-30mph wind
Utectok
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Fair point I look for high bc bullets and dial for drop. Sure less of both with a magnum but a whole lot less barrel life and more recoil. Each to his own of course. Straight shooting
Will have to remember to shout the deer next time:
'Just wait there buey, need to get the Kestrel out, load Strelok up, oh no the Bluetooth connection to my RF bino's dropped out, give us a min!'
Vs.
Look, deer!
Boom, dead.
My opinion which isn’t necessarily worth much but….. if you shoot in woodland most of the time then a 308 will do you nicely, if you shoot in open ground most of the time then 7 Rem Mag takes a lot of beating. If you do 50:50 between the two I would look at a 270. If you reload then I would consider a 6.5x55 for the woodland/50:50 slots
Utectok
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Each to his own mate
personally I spot on the rf binos which takes one button to give me the clicks required. Dial scope and fire. Windage I call on the shot upto 250m unless it’s really windy. But really you do what work for you mate hats off.
nun_hunter
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What about the Yewteee or Virtus bullets that fragment or at least seperate into the petals and the core so behave more like a conventional lead core bullet and dont need the same velocity?
Just like lead, not all copper bullets are made the same or act the same.
Just like lead, not all copper bullets are made the same or act the same.
You don’t say what species or what type of shooting.
Woodland roe inside 100m is not open hill red at 250-300
You don’t say where you are or what is available.
Do you homeload or can you even use homeloads. Many people have to use factory.
Find brands that work for you application AND you can actually buy reliably.
I am using 136gr Peregrine in .308
Lower friction design means I am getting 2950 from 20” barrel
More than enough terminal velocity to expand at ranges to 300
Over 70 deer red roe Sika and more other species
Ranges from 20 yds to 289
Work exceptionally well
We have volume data on 124/6.5 in four cartridges
136/150 30cal n three cartridges
125/133 .277 in 270
132/140 7mm in three cartridges
183gr 30 cal in one cartridge
75/82gr 6mm in three cartridges
Have used others. In other cartridges
Some work better when pushed fast, some are messy below 75m as a result.
Far too many variables to say what will be the best
But choose a cartridge and bullet that gives you a sensible terminal velocity for the ranges you expect to shoot and one that will expand on the quarry you intend to shoot
Woodland roe inside 100m is not open hill red at 250-300
You don’t say where you are or what is available.
Do you homeload or can you even use homeloads. Many people have to use factory.
Find brands that work for you application AND you can actually buy reliably.
I am using 136gr Peregrine in .308
Lower friction design means I am getting 2950 from 20” barrel
More than enough terminal velocity to expand at ranges to 300
Over 70 deer red roe Sika and more other species
Ranges from 20 yds to 289
Work exceptionally well
We have volume data on 124/6.5 in four cartridges
136/150 30cal n three cartridges
125/133 .277 in 270
132/140 7mm in three cartridges
183gr 30 cal in one cartridge
75/82gr 6mm in three cartridges
Have used others. In other cartridges
Some work better when pushed fast, some are messy below 75m as a result.
Far too many variables to say what will be the best
But choose a cartridge and bullet that gives you a sensible terminal velocity for the ranges you expect to shoot and one that will expand on the quarry you intend to shoot
I’m using fox 123gr currently in the 6.5 but I can’t get it to shoot fast enough. I’d be interested to perhaps try the peregrine though.
This is what I’m looking at Ed, just interested to see what cartridges people have found success with. At those distances.
Believe it or not, the small bodied deer are usually the ones that give more problems with copper as there is very little resistance to expand against.
A slight error in shot placement, and/or distances over 200-250m... hope you have a good dog!
123gr not going fast enough?
what MV?
Fox 123gr dont need anything more than about 2450fps
what are you running as a lot more is possible?
Luk3W3av3r
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A friend of mine uses a 6.5x55 and haven't seen any runners!
Brave Echo Niner
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@Tris88
There’s a post with the Barnes in the .300 showing the effect just posted on that thread.
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There’s a post with the Barnes in the .300 showing the effect just posted on that thread.
Comparing Terminal Performance of Non-lead/Copper Bullets on UK Deer
I have been very pleased with the performance of the Fox 130gn .308 ammunition that I have bought from Ed at Edinburgh Rifles. Fair to say that I have noticed that the reaction to the shot with Red Hinds on the hill is different and all the roe that I have shot have dropped as if hit by...
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2750.
When you say you don’t need more than 2450 do you mean terminal velocity?
I meant muzzle
you can get the expansion from as little as 2000-2200 with Fox (tested and verified)
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