Stalker62
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Fairly sure, that I would have been in a world of pain, had I ever taken it home...
6 years for possession of sawn off shotgun and cartridges.
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merlin
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....not really the time to be taking your work home with youFairly sure, that I would have been in a world of pain, had I ever taken it home...
Covid court backlog.
nun_hunter
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Reading between the lines this was part of a much larger police operation that may have either been ongoing and this being public would have been a detriment to the prosecution. or other aspects of it needed to be tried in court first due to a more serious nature.
Or the wheels of justice turn much slower than even I thought.
markj1
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The majority of violent crime in the UK is not committed with firearms.
Police officers are mostly unarmed, as are security guards, and most people in general.
A violent criminal can achieve their goals using knives, matches and other type of weapons.
This means that criminals do not feel compelled to use a firearm in a robbery or a mugging.
(and it also means that less legal firearms are stolen and find their way into the hands of criminals)
If someone is attacked at home by an axe wielding burglar, I am sure they'd love to have a firearm to hand, and at the individual level this makes sense.
However, at the community level, if more police officers, security guards, and private citizens arm themselves with firearms for self defense, then inevitably criminals will up their game to match and we will see many more violent crimes where a firearms was used by the perpetrators.
Not sure that we want this.
BTW, I am a keen shooter and own several rifles, but it never occurred to me to try and use them for self defense. The rifles are either stored at an RFD, or locked away in my gin cabinet with the ammunition locked in a separate compartment and the keys hidden - there's no way I could easily reach for the gun if I spotted an intruder - a 999 call will be the best course of action in this case.
Police officers are mostly unarmed, as are security guards, and most people in general.
A violent criminal can achieve their goals using knives, matches and other type of weapons.
This means that criminals do not feel compelled to use a firearm in a robbery or a mugging.
(and it also means that less legal firearms are stolen and find their way into the hands of criminals)
If someone is attacked at home by an axe wielding burglar, I am sure they'd love to have a firearm to hand, and at the individual level this makes sense.
However, at the community level, if more police officers, security guards, and private citizens arm themselves with firearms for self defense, then inevitably criminals will up their game to match and we will see many more violent crimes where a firearms was used by the perpetrators.
Not sure that we want this.
BTW, I am a keen shooter and own several rifles, but it never occurred to me to try and use them for self defense. The rifles are either stored at an RFD, or locked away in my gin cabinet with the ammunition locked in a separate compartment and the keys hidden - there's no way I could easily reach for the gun if I spotted an intruder - a 999 call will be the best course of action in this case.
Love it. Gin and guns .The perfect combo.
Some people choose remand before the offence they have been charged with even goes to Court.
As they haven't been convicted there treatment while incarcerated is much easier than once found guilty in a court of law .
I've known of cases where the individual although sentenced to prison time actually walks free from court due to the time spent on remand.
As they haven't been convicted there treatment while incarcerated is much easier than once found guilty in a court of law .
I've known of cases where the individual although sentenced to prison time actually walks free from court due to the time spent on remand.
ColinJ
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Cowboy re-enactors have sawn-off shotguns (Section 1) for re-enactment.
Bo Diddley
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That's some gin cabinet to have a lock on it
Has to be said, How many gun discharges have taken place by a Police man, then to be investigated after?
Incidentally' They are getting in a lot of training/practice on Bisley ranges of late?
BC.
Incidentally' They are getting in a lot of training/practice on Bisley ranges of late?
BC.
merlin
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Humane dispatch, emptying a drop box trap, I've even heard of people getting them for pest control around farm buildings and inside silo's
Admittedly they are usually listed as shot pistols and .410, if you look at the link below is there much of a difference other than name
Falco 410 Double Pistol - Mike Collins
New guns always in stock - 3" Chamber. Please note that, due to legal restrictions, firearms can’t be purchased directly through the site. Click on the ‘Enquire’ button to find out more and/or to start the buying process.
mikethegun.co.uk
markj1
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For the life of me, I cannot fathom how an industry that managed to recreate Dunkirk and D-Day on screen, is still dependent on the use of real guns in films. You'd have thought that if they managed to build a set to depict the sinking of the Titanic, they should be able to make imitation firearms for use on movie sets (and yes I'm referring to the Alec Baldwin incident).
nun_hunter
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Although unfortunately severe prison sentences and harsh conditions dont reduce prison populations or act as a deterrent. At least not to people going to prison, the likes of us are already deterred by even the most comfortable prison as the loss of liberty and freedom is a sufficient deterrent.
I can't remember the place in America that had the tent city prison in the desert and they were proud that the prison guard dogs had more spent on their daily food than the prisoners but their reoffending rates and total percentage of population in prison was just as high as other places in America.
On the flip side Sweden has one of the lowest reoffending rates globally because they focus on rehabilitation and their sentences are much shorter than other countries even for severe violent crimes.
Depends if you want to spend a lot of money punishing someone for many years just to have them come out and still be a danger to society or spend less over a shorter period but rehabilitate people so they then don't pose a risk to society
rickydiver
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They do have guns made from polystyrene and other materials that are very real looking, they are extremely expensive though and deactivated options I guess will be preferred.
markj1
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Thanks. To my mind, that accident simply should not have happened. I have been shooting since I was 14, and pointing a firearm at another person who isn't an enemy or a suspect is a big No No, let alone pulling the trigger - anyone caught doing this is any circumstances that I have been in, would have suffered the consequences (and any trainee that would say 'but the gun wasn't loaded' would have been shown the door pronto....). It's totally bonkers that they are allowed to do this in the film industry. And it's even worse if the reason that they do this is that it's cheaper to use real (not deactivated) firearms.
Even if they wish to use plastic / resin replicas, they need a real one for the initial cast.
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