2 calibres

I could do everything I need with 7mm Rem Mag and a .375 H&H but that doesn’t take account of different rifle configurations for different scenarios so I don’t think 2 is enough!!
 
It wouldn’t make small deer legal in 158 gr, especially as most loads are pistol loads as opposed to rifle loads, but even then 158 gr bullets eat up too much powder space.

Yeah, doubt it would be fast enough to be UK legal, I only really meant it wouldn't struggle to kill a deer at sensible ranges even with bog-standard ammo.

Thankfully I am not covered by the deer act(s) here in PA (well intended though they may be). I would far rather a 357 than a 223 or even 243.

Obviously everyone needs to obey the law, even those whose letter sometimes contradicts their own spirit. And I get it, if you set some rules they have to be easy enough to follow, even if they can create some nonsense situations. E.g. a solid from a 470 NE would make a bigger permanent wound channel through a roe than a 223 ever could, yet it would be illegal. A 200 or 215 grain bullet from a 303 would be better against a big red stag than a 100 grain from a 243, but would similarly be illegal in Scotland.

Anyway, all of which is to say, 357 is my ideal "small deer" rifle, and I really need to get one!
 
Yeah, doubt it would be fast enough to be UK legal, I only really meant it wouldn't struggle to kill a deer at sensible ranges even with bog-standard ammo.

Thankfully I am not covered by the deer act(s) here in PA (well intended though they may be). I would far rather a 357 than a 223 or even 243.

Obviously everyone needs to obey the law, even those whose letter sometimes contradicts their own spirit. And I get it, if you set some rules they have to be easy enough to follow, even if they can create some nonsense situations. E.g. a solid from a 470 NE would make a bigger permanent wound channel through a roe than a 223 ever could, yet it would be illegal. A 200 or 215 grain bullet from a 303 would be better against a big red stag than a 100 grain from a 243, but would similarly be illegal in Scotland.

Anyway, all of which is to say, 357 is my ideal "small deer" rifle, and I really need to get one!
Yes, it would undoubtedly kill anything we have here in the UK. The laws are quite daft but we have to work with them.

I do like fast and flat but I’m developing a fondness for lever guns. Had my first deer with the 45-70 marlin last week, the smallest deer you can shoot in the UK, a female munty!
 
If you could have only 2 calibres, one for small deer and one for large deer, what would you choose and why?
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Errr, not hard at all unless everything is judged by mediocrity being the gold standard. The Creedmoor is kind of the Kardashian’s of rifle calibres!
No - it’s more the Ford Focus!

Or, if we’re using celebrities as the metaphor, I’d say something like Tom Hanks. Mild mannered Everyman.
 
Thankyou for your input. Thankfully I am fully aware of this. If you don’t like this post as you well know you could easily find another post you would be interested in reading by using the search bar at the top right of your screen. Just out of curiosity are actively asking for people to not post in this forum? I haven’t asked this question before and the people that have answered the question may have never seen this type of question on here before that’s why they have answered.
To be fair, we only had ‘what 3 calibres’ a few weeks ago…..
 
No - it’s more the Ford Focus!

Or, if we’re using celebrities as the metaphor, I’d say something like Tom Hanks. Mild mannered Everyman.
I would have thought the 308 would have been the mundane Everyman… I would make a case for the Kardashians being valid as they were the in thing a few years ago but are not in the press quite as much these days as everyone is a bit fed up with them. Now the 6.5PRC, that must be the “Hawk tuar “ girl!!
 
I would have thought the 308 would have been the mundane Everyman… I would make a case for the Kardashians being valid as they were the in thing a few years ago but are not in the press quite as much these days as everyone is a bit fed up with them. Now the 6.5PRC, that must be the “Hawk tuar “ girl!!
Agreed .308 is the Tom Hanks of cartridges.

So… let’s nail the metaphor down. Creedmoor is effectively a flashy repackaging of a venerable stalwart (6.5x55), with a lot of marketing behind it. But which is, underneath it all, a perfectly adequate, quite versatile multi purpose round. I think where the Kardashian metaphor breaks is that they actually have nothing at all behind the marketing. Whereas the Creedmoor is a perfectly functional cartridge, if rather dull.

So you’re looking for a young celeb who burst on the scene to great fanfare, but turns out to be just another iteration of an established pattern. Perfectly workable journeyman actor who appeals to everyone from angry teens to your gran. Tom Holland seems like a good option.

And yes - I’m ‘on holiday’ with the family and bored to tears.
 
Agreed .308 is the Tom Hanks of cartridges.

So… let’s nail the metaphor down. Creedmoor is effectively a flashy repackaging of a venerable stalwart (6.5x55), with a lot of marketing behind it. But which is, underneath it all, a perfectly adequate, quite versatile multi purpose round. I think where the Kardashian metaphor breaks is that they actually have nothing at all behind the marketing. Whereas the Creedmoor is a perfectly functional cartridge, if rather dull.

So you’re looking for a young celeb who burst on the scene to great fanfare, but turns out to be just another iteration of an established pattern. Perfectly workable journeyman actor who appeals to everyone from angry teens to your gran. Tom Holland seems like a good option.

And yes - I’m ‘on holiday’ with the family and bored to tears.
No, this is important to get right🤣… yes I could go with Tom Holland. Have a good holiday !!
 
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