The demise of lead shot...

[PK54]

Fairly sure they banning the USE of lead so not going to help having a shed full

 

[grandad of the woods]

Why 2029 (genuine question)

 

[Tralle]

The Dane’s have had lead shot banned for 20 years and say folk still turn up to shoots with lead they found at the back of the cupboard!

Some considerations,

1) Tungsten dust when sewn into the skin of a rat caused cancerous tumours of the time

2) Kent cartridges the owner of gamebore manufacture bismuth shot in Hull England, ship it to America and sell the Bismuth waterfowl cartridges the same price as high performance steel cartridges!

Price on bismuth is nuts atm (hail trump!), if they sell as cheap as steelshot in the us i reckon it would be almost viable to buy them just for the bismuth.

Where do you get your information.
The ban on lead shot has been in place for 29 years and was phased in over a few years prior to that. With no lead shot was being sold in the later phases of the transition. So any lead ammunition that people have in the back of their cupboards is at least that old. Would you want to use 30 year old ammo?
It is possible that very occasionally someone finds some old lead cartridges but I have not seen any in the time I have been here. If I caught someone deliberately using lead shot on one of our shoots they would be sent home immediately and reported to the other board members with a view to expelling them from the association. I will not risk my shooting or the rest of the association members for one individual who wants to save himself a few Kr.

Out of interest I am going to try and ask members what cartridges they are using. I have a feeling that many of the new younger members coming into the association are actively choosing biowad ammo. So I'm going to try and find out.

There was absolutely an influx of lead ammo from Sweden and Greenland for the first many years of the ban, the steel ammo back then was not good, to say the least.

I would love to use biowads, but all I have tried have patterned bad in my gun and left wierd residue in the barrel.

An other thing to have in mind when discussing this lead steel debacle is that Denmark is not a member of cip, so our shotgun ammunition market can be extremely confusing when comparing to other countries.
CIP Standard velocity steel ammo is not always legal for hunting in Denmark.

 

[AGR]

There may be a few problems in the future regarding shooting with steel within forestry. A farmer/timber producer tells me that when the saw hits a lead pellet they sometimes see a spark, when the saw hits steel shot it will blunt the saw, (not totally I believe), so he won't allow the use of steel.

 

[grandad of the woods]

Screw this lol shooting is becoming expensive

 

[Smellydog]

Screw this lol shooting is becoming expensive

That's the idea. It becomes the realms of the rich and famous, an elitist sport. Also prevents a risk of an attempted coup from the minions.
The best bit, the minions funded the brain child scheme mwhahahaha.

 

[BryanDC]

There may be a few problems in the future regarding shooting with steel within forestry. A farmer/timber producer tells me that when the saw hits a lead pellet they sometimes see a spark, when the saw hits steel shot it will blunt the saw, (not totally I believe), so he won't allow the use of steel.

The forestry association here specified bismuth shot only. Partly as they feared the effect on saws but more because of unsightly marks in the wood. But some years ago, after going through a lot of research they decided that the problem was so insignificant for normal wood production, that it really didn't exist. So the ban on steel shot was removed, but still exists in some Woodlands where they grow trees for fine veneer.

 

[BryanDC]

Price on bismuth is nuts atm (hail trump!), if they sell as cheap as steelshot in the us i reckon it would be almost viable to buy them just for the bismuth.

There was absolutely an influx of lead ammo from Sweden and Greenland for the first many years of the ban, the steel ammo back then was not good, to say the least.

I would love to use biowads, but all I have tried have patterned bad in my gun and left wierd residue in the barrel.

An other thing to have in mind when discussing this lead steel debacle is that Denmark is not a member of cip, so our shotgun ammunition market can be extremely confusing when comparing to other countries.
CIP Standard velocity steel ammo is not always legal for hunting in Denmark.

I can certainly believe there were still people using lead ammo for some time after 1996 but I dont see it during our hunts. If you were bringing it in from sweden without an import licence, you are effectively breaking the law and if stopped and checked, would almost certainly lose your jagttegn.

Have you tried any of the biowad ammo from Bornaghi? I have been using them for a few years and think they are one of the best cartridges I have used.

You are right that it is a good idea to check the pressure of the cartridges here. That said mine are 1050 bar (high speed steel) and I don't think twice about putting them through my Beretta.