they are not redundant parts they are tactical standby suppliesFirst thing is to take it apart and see if you have any redundant parts left when you put it back together
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New Rifle? What's the first thing to do....
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sir-lamp-alot
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ask the person your buying it from what ammo it likes, get a box and test it out, realise that the person before you was right seeing as they have more than likly put hundreds of rounds down the barrel, zero in then go out stalking and enjoy. i really cant see the point of cleaning it quite yet just get out and use the thing once your happy with the grouping and zero, if it isnt broke dont fix it
Sir-lamp-alot's advice about speaking to the previous owner if you can is sensible but I do think that you must clean it thoroughly and inspect it carefully before doing anything else. You have to know that the rifle is completely sound and you can't establish that looking down a fouled bore.
Toxster
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I'll notify my FEO, dry fire it and get it fitted to me, do a light clean , check everything is tight then zero it and do some target work. Once I'm sure it's safe and reliable, I'll do a deep clean as then I'll know it's been done. I'll do that thing of checking the cloth colours to see what's coming out...
Do people take the action out and clean it? Or is that likely to mess up the bedding....or worse...?
Do people take the action out and clean it? Or is that likely to mess up the bedding....or worse...?
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Monkey Spanker
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Here's how I 'ran in' my new Lilja barrel on my .280:For heaven's sake yes! That woven cloth in the bore snake is far more damaging to the crown than a steel rod. The horrors I've seen using bore snakes for the last 20 years on my own rifles have been unspeakable. I never talk about them. Ever.~Muir
1. Fired 4 rounds to obtain fire formed case to send to proof house. Dry cleaned bore with a patch.
2. Fired 5 rounds to zero - pulled through with dry bore snake.
3. Fired 5 rounds with a 52 grain load - pulled through with dry bore snake.
4. Fired 5 rounds with a 53 grain load - pulled through with dry bore snake.
5. Fired 5 rounds with a 54 grain load - pulled through with dry bore snake.
6. Shot first deer - pulled through with dry bore snake.
How can it damage the crown if you pull it out so it doesn't even touch it?
A well known 'Rifle' shop near here, the chap reckons he can tell whether a person using a bore snake is right or left handed from the state of the crown!
Well if you said 'right handed' you'd be correct 90% of the time anyway, and if the bolt is on the left you'd probably account for a good few of the remaining 10%!! Anything you push or pull through a barrel can cause wear. If it aint broke, why try and fix it?MS
Jagare
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For heaven's sake yes! That woven cloth in the bore snake is far more damaging to the crown than a steel rod. The horrors I've seen using bore snakes for the last 20 years on my own rifles have been unspeakable. I never talk about them.
Ever.
You know the terrible damage a bore snake can do yet you keep on useing them. I'm the same. When will we learn? Why don't we listen to the good advice given on this forum?
You know the terrible damage a bore snake can do yet you keep on useing them. I'm the same. When will we learn? Why don't we listen to the good advice given on this forum?
I have a small "top hat" that I machined out of brass to use as a guide to protect the crown - I only use the evil snake on my lever action .357 (and my .410)
Jagare
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My reply was a little sarcasm. Ffs how hard can it be to pull a bore snake strait out of a barrel with out damaging the crown. There must be a lot of less than clever people on here if they can't manage a simple task like that.
Ted47
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+1. on cleaning and running in follow manufacturers instructions if in doubt whether it needs to be done or notFirst thing I usually do is make sure the missus isn't about prior to slipping it into the cabinet, it also helps to get rifles that all look similar - when asked how many I have "a few" usually works a treat
Here's how I 'ran in' my new Lilja barrel on my .280:
1. Fired 4 rounds to obtain fire formed case to send to proof house. Dry cleaned bore with a patch.
2. Fired 5 rounds to zero - pulled through with dry bore snake.
3. Fired 5 rounds with a 52 grain load - pulled through with dry bore snake.
4. Fired 5 rounds with a 53 grain load - pulled through with dry bore snake.
5. Fired 5 rounds with a 54 grain load - pulled through with dry bore snake.
6. Shot first deer - pulled through with dry bore snake.
How can it damage the crown if you pull it out so it doesn't even touch it?
A well known 'Rifle' shop near here, the chap reckons he can tell whether a person using a bore snake is right or left handed from the state of the crown!
MS
Love it!
I absolutely ruined my Hart-barreled .223 this summer. Before using the bore snake last June I was getting half to 5/8 MOA. By the end of August, after weekly use of the bore snake, the grouping had deteriorated to .2 MOA. I hate myself and my lazy ways sometimes.~Muir
When I got my 595, I removed the action, sealed the wood, adjusted the trigger and greased the trigger unit lightly. I didn't touch the barrel. I bought, borrowed a few different makes of round and found out which worked for me. Bore snakes are banned in my household as I got one jammed in the 595 and had to tie it to a work bench for removal, hence it is the old tested method of rods.
Good of luck and enjoy
Good of luck and enjoy
How on earth did you do that??~Muir
I honestly don't know, all I can think is that some sort of knot appeared. I had visions of a ruined rifle but luckily no damage done. Now I have a rifle vice thingy and use rods.
I have found that the majority of 'stuck' bore snakes come from people who use the wrong caliber snake or, like you, get a knot worked into it. ~Muir
FWIW: I used to get brought guns with cleaning rods and patches stuck in the bore, so snakes aren't the only barrel pluggers.
Install a set of CONETROL bases & rings!
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Monkey Spanker
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Take it apart and check the fricken trigger assembly and all other parts are tight, there's an expert on here somewhere that has a the torque figures....
Otherwise enjoy a great rifle....
Regards,
Gixer
Glad to see you've maintained a sense of humour!
MS
Glad to see you've maintained a sense of humour!
MS
Would never lose my sense of humour....
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