Venison Shortage reported by major gamedealers.

Heym SR20

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As reported by BASC. Noticed this on my Facebook feed. Overwhelmingly comments were about the very poor and low price dealers are offering. Certainly one dealer that we use - not worth the diesel so we keep and use ourselves and give away to friends and family.

Is the low prices coming back to bite the dealers

 
It would be preferable for BASC to remove its finger from the scale and let the market operate. Quite obviously either dealers are offering too low a price or an excess of regulation and costs is stifling supply.
I suspect dealers would need to triple their prices to get much increase in supply.
 
irrespective of carcass value, the deer are not showing so much in legal hours this year. High amount of acorns holding them deep in the woods and it feels like it has not stopped raining in months so there normal places are waterlogged.

This is my personal thoughts. The use of digital scopes is pushing the deer to come out later and later. We have noticed a change in the deer movement pattern over the past few years.

I have cameras out and even places not heavily shot the deer are coming out later and going back into cover before light.

Is it the use of digital scopes? The weather ? Or in some places more foot fall of general public walking footpaths? Something is changing the movements.
 
Forty years ago, I would get about £30 - £35 for a roe deer from the dealer, just drop it in and get some cash...
Fast forward to today, and it's the same price, same dealer... I can only assume it's all the red tape and bureaucracy the dealers have to deal with, filling in and filing all that paperwork :norty:
Still, we are all safer because of it :rofl:
 
I got more money per pound fifty years ago than what I would get from thr dealer now. So something isn’t quite adding up
Yes that's very true but we didn't have the deer then, on my little bit of Hampshire I only had roe and a few fallow and certainly no muntjac.
We all know deer numbers have exploded over the last 20 years and I guess the game dealers have been flooded with venison.
I said on FB that very many stalkers now have set up there own small venison businesses selling and processing venison to the end user and other food businesses after getting registered with food standards or just selling it on FB giving up the game in the fur from there own chillers.
If your game dealer wonts you to use copper at £3 per round and you head/neck shoot a Muntjac and you got 50p per KG that doesn't leave much for you after taking your fuel and time into it!
 
Venison today is purely a way to avoid having to bring all the deer back home, there’s no money in it. Lucky if it covers fuel and lunch and coffee.

I reckon dealers could in places just say - leave them in the fridge, no payment, but you have a place to get rid of them - and they’d still have full larders at the end of the month.
 
irrespective of carcass value, the deer are not showing so much in legal hours this year. High amount of acorns holding them deep in the woods and it feels like it has not stopped raining in months so there normal places are waterlogged.

This is my personal thoughts. The use of digital scopes is pushing the deer to come out later and later. We have noticed a change in the deer movement pattern over the past few years.

I have cameras out and even places not heavily shot the deer are coming out later and going back into cover before light.

Is it the use of digital scopes? The weather ? Or in some places more foot fall of general public walking footpaths? Something is changing the movements.
I agree with this and glad I’m not making it up in my head!
 
Anyone know ehat a game dealer sells a carcass at? (price wise)

i see broken down it is a massive increase on £ per kilo, just wondering how much the carcass price increases
 
Am I imagining it or are folk seeking to make a case for universal use of the lamp (night shooting) based on having made life even harder due to use of thermal? That or they've yet to add a pair of wellies and quick-dry underpants to their stalking wardrobe!

As for shortages, the only one I'm aware of is that of Kentish Game Dealers.

K
 
Am I imagining it or are folk seeking to make a case for universal use of the lamp (night shooting) based on having made life even harder due to use of thermal? That or they've yet to add a pair of wellies and quick-dry underpants to their stalking wardrobe!

As for shortages, the only one I'm aware of is that of Kentish Game Dealers.

K
I dont understand why we cant night shoot?
I cant see a logical reason
 
irrespective of carcass value, the deer are not showing so much in legal hours this year. High amount of acorns holding them deep in the woods and it feels like it has not stopped raining in months so there normal places are waterlogged.
I see very few fallow coming out of the woods onto pasture and arable this doe season day or night. I've also heard from many stalkers/landowners in Hants and Sussex to say the same.

From my view, fawns were small this year and I think their dams weaned them early due to the drought. All of my does were dry this season, even early Nov.

All does have been very fat.

IMHO, the combination of weaning, flush of autumn vegetation, acorns/fruit has put them in such good condition that they aren't feeding anywhere near as widely.
 
irrespective of carcass value, the deer are not showing so much in legal hours this year. High amount of acorns holding them deep in the woods and it feels like it has not stopped raining in months so there normal places are waterlogged.

This is my personal thoughts. The use of digital scopes is pushing the deer to come out later and later. We have noticed a change in the deer movement pattern over the past few years.

I have cameras out and even places not heavily shot the deer are coming out later and going back into cover before light.

Is it the use of digital scopes? The weather ? Or in some places more foot fall of general public walking footpaths? Something is changing the movements.
You missed out other factors (you have to put in a disclaimer these days or the usual row kicks off) with people "wanting to harvest natural food for their family" "booking a couple of stalks a year with a guide" "wanted fallow buck traveling to x place for 3 days"
these are just a few, then add estates/outfitters who take clients to shoot a medal head so 2 stalks a day AM/PM, "managers" :-| leaving " good bucks/stags a couple more years to make a "better gene pool" :doh:
Acorn seasons come and go also 1000's of acres planted as "wild bird cover" well guess what deer like it too so.

Deer live in urban areas as we keep building on their ground, they are safe in those places just watch the HAD despatch video posted.

Game dealers take deer, so if you "fiddle" with the gene pool and leave them in the field to mature they can't process them, trust me dealers don't care what it had on it's neck they want it to be of a standard to take in and process.

The overall factor is every one has a JOB which they need as it pays bill keeps the family fed warm sent off on holiday and so on, also their time is limited in freezer space a processing area chiller room worry what the neighbours might think :-|

Lots of people have it as a hobby ( I do) so don't blame Acorns or Digital scopes lol
 
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