Contact from the FEO today...

Stalker62

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Well the application for a couple of variations went in, in August.

The cheque was cashed that week. Then a case of "hurry up and wait".

No dramas. These are not urgent and I know the issues around Firearm Licensing at the moment.

A missed call from the local (point of fact he is not local, he is covering the entire County whilst a "brand new" recruit is trained up - from scratch - for my neck of the woods).

Anyhoo.

I manage to get hold of him this afternoon: this chap has been in the game for over twenty five years. Knowledgeable and keen to make sure he gets my application right "first time". He was keen to probe me on a Snider .577 rifle I have (he has the same calibre) - it helps when your FEO/FLM is a shooter.

A very pleasant half-hour chat with a man who "gets it", but who is clearly as frustrated with the lack of staff and training in these departments as I suspect some on here are.

Long short.

My application for a 7.62x54R and for a 7.5x55 Swiss is now being submitted for approval. Whilst it is unwise to ever count one's chickens, I have started to look (in earnest) for a Mosin-Nagant and a Schmidt-Rubin.

What's out there?
 
Well the application for a couple of variations went in, in August.

The cheque was cashed that week. Then a case of "hurry up and wait".

No dramas. These are not urgent and I know the issues around Firearm Licensing at the moment.

A missed call from the local (point of fact he is not local, he is covering the entire County whilst a "brand new" recruit is trained up - from scratch - for my neck of the woods).

Anyhoo.

I manage to get hold of him this afternoon: this chap has been in the game for over twenty five years. Knowledgeable and keen to make sure he gets my application right "first time". He was keen to probe me on a Snider .577 rifle I have (he has the same calibre) - it helps when your FEO/FLM is a shooter.

A very pleasant half-hour chat with a man who "gets it", but who is clearly as frustrated with the lack of staff and training in these departments as I suspect some on here are.

Long short.

My application for a 7.62x54R and for a 7.5x55 Swiss is now being submitted for approval. Whilst it is unwise to ever count one's chickens, I have started to look (in earnest) for a Mosin-Nagant and a Schmidt-Rubin.

What's out there?
Excellent news and soooo refreshing to hear of an FEO who shoots too.
Re your new toys the ultimate Mosin is the Finnish capture which are generally true .308 whereas the rusky Tulas and Izhevsk(?)s can be anything from .308 to .314. There are even “merican” mosins made by Westinghouse for the Tzar but the old revolution stymied the deal and Uncle Sam bought the lot to save the company. Finns are very sought after and attract top prices. Lots of stuff on t’internet about them - if you want accuracy go for the very long 91/30 (see my avatar - 91/30 shooting Sierras) - top tip on the long girl is that the rear sight comes off to reveal a standard 11mm (?) dovetail which accommodates a long-eye relief pistol scope in what the yanks call Scout Rifle mode. Or if you want to make a few new but slightly strange friends (whilst simultaneously losing many of your existing ones) the M44 carbine with side-slung bayonet aka the “Russian Boomstick‘ is great fun - top tip don’t fire your first ever shot until twilight…… Can you see those far-off trees light up children? Unfortunately it does not have the concealed dovetail so you will need to get something like a Brass Stacker mount for the scope. That reminds me I think I have one so if you go down the M44 (not the motorway) route send me a pm. One word word of warning about the Mossies - Cosmoline - if you are lucky enough to pick one up unissued do not fire your new toy until you have got all and I do mean all of this noxious unction removed - especially from the chamber and bore, the damned stuff sets brick hard and is a nightmare to remove. Also the bolt is usually rammed full of it, often leading to a lazy firing pin and guns being returned to RFDs as faulty - Mrs FB’s hairdryer worked a treat in both of mine.
SRs are fantastic too and slightly quirky, I always think the action is inside out but they are very well made and usually extremely accurate too but from memory they come in a couple of slightly different chamberings - unlike the Mossies not really my forte but others will advise.

Like most older guns prices are getting a bit silly but what can you do, even in the US they are upwards of 400 dollars, but not long ago, maybe 5/7 years, you could buy a crate of 20 91/30s, incl. bayonets, slings, cleaning kits, oil bottles and 2x 400 (?) sardine cans of military ammo for less than 1000 dollars. Changed times.
As per an earlier thread I would be very keen to get my 91/30 on for deer, it is certainly well able for it but the Mauser M48 is in the lead in that hotly contested race….. the plan is to get it drilled for proper scope mounts first.
Soooo just to whet your appetite see below. I wish you well in your search sir.
🦊🦊
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Well the application for a couple of variations went in, in August.

The cheque was cashed that week. Then a case of "hurry up and wait".

No dramas. These are not urgent and I know the issues around Firearm Licensing at the moment.

A missed call from the local (point of fact he is not local, he is covering the entire County whilst a "brand new" recruit is trained up - from scratch - for my neck of the woods).

Anyhoo.

I manage to get hold of him this afternoon: this chap has been in the game for over twenty five years. Knowledgeable and keen to make sure he gets my application right "first time". He was keen to probe me on a Snider .577 rifle I have (he has the same calibre) - it helps when your FEO/FLM is a shooter.

A very pleasant half-hour chat with a man who "gets it", but who is clearly as frustrated with the lack of staff and training in these departments as I suspect some on here are.

Long short.

My application for a 7.62x54R and for a 7.5x55 Swiss is now being submitted for approval. Whilst it is unwise to ever count one's chickens, I have started to look (in earnest) for a Mosin-Nagant and a Schmidt-Rubin.

What's out there?
K31s seem to be going up in price, they are awesome, I do hope you asked for a deer condition on it.
 
K31s seem to be going up in price, they are awesome, I do hope you asked for a deer condition on it.
The K31s are a very nice rifle , there's a pic of mine on here somewhere . I have a number of Moistened Nuggets as well , including two Sniper variants , there's a picture of some of them in the JAK thread . The K31 is a far better built rifle , but the MN 91s always work and are quite accurate , the local deer don't like them at all .

AB
 
Excellent news and soooo refreshing to hear of an FEO who shoots too.
Re your new toys the ultimate Mosin is the Finnish capture which are generally true .308 whereas the rusky Tulas and Izhevsk(?)s can be anything from .308 to .314. There are even “merican” mosins made by Westinghouse for the Tzar but the old revolution stymied the deal and Uncle Sam bought the lot to save the company. Finns are very sought after and attract top prices. Lots of stuff on t’internet about them - if you want accuracy go for the very long 91/30 (see my avatar - 91/30 shooting Sierras) - top tip on the long girl is that the rear sight comes off to reveal a standard 11mm (?) dovetail which accommodates a long-eye relief pistol scope in what the yanks call Scout Rifle mode. Or if you want to make a few new but slightly strange friends (whilst simultaneously losing many of your existing ones) the M44 carbine with side-slung bayonet aka the “Russian Boomstick‘ is great fun - top tip don’t fire your first ever shot until twilight…… Can you see those far-off trees light up children? Unfortunately it does not have the concealed dovetail so you will need to get something like a Brass Stacker mount for the scope. That reminds me I think I have one so if you go down the M44 (not the motorway) route send me a pm. One word word of warning about the Mossies - Cosmoline - if you are lucky enough to pick one up unissued do not fire your new toy until you have got all and I do mean all of this noxious unction removed - especially from the chamber and bore, the damned stuff sets brick hard and is a nightmare to remove. Also the bolt is usually rammed full of it, often leading to a lazy firing pin and guns being returned to RFDs as faulty - Mrs FB’s hairdryer worked a treat in both of mine.
SRs are fantastic too and slightly quirky, I always think the action is inside out but they are very well made and usually extremely accurate too but from memory they come in a couple of slightly different chamberings - unlike the Mossies not really my forte but others will advise.

Like most older guns prices are getting a bit silly but what can you do, even in the US they are upwards of 400 dollars, but not long ago, maybe 5/7 years, you could buy a crate of 20 91/30s, incl. bayonets, slings, cleaning kits, oil bottles and 2x 400 (?) sardine cans of military ammo for less than 1000 dollars. Changed times.
As per an earlier thread I would be very keen to get my 91/30 on for deer, it is certainly well able for it but the Mauser M48 is in the lead in that hotly contested race….. the plan is to get it drilled for proper scope mounts first.
Soooo just to whet your appetite see below. I wish you well in your search sir.
🦊🦊
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As you've probably noticed , I really like Mosin Nagants . That being said , a decent M48 is usually a very accurate rifle . Mine is issue , but if the light is good ( issue sights ) it will keep five shots inside of two inches at 100 yards . It's common to see M48s done up in their sniper configuration around here . Original mounts and scopes ( Zrak ) are available locally . I've watched some guys shoot well under one MOA with these rifles . The die hard Milsurp guys get upset because they're not original . Personally , I don't care , I buy rifles to use them , not to look at . If I remember correctly , your M48 shoots really well , why switch from the IER scope ?

AB
 
I got a mosin recently as my first rifle. And whilst I do love it they can be a challenge, lots a things to rectify, so be ready for that.

Got a k31 not long after, love it, shoots awesome from the off. No need to even zero, was perfect from Switzerland
 
Excellent news and soooo refreshing to hear of an FEO who shoots too.
Re your new toys the ultimate Mosin is the Finnish capture which are generally true .308 whereas the rusky Tulas and Izhevsk(?)s can be anything from .308 to .314. There are even “merican” mosins made by Westinghouse for the Tzar but the old revolution stymied the deal and Uncle Sam bought the lot to save the company. Finns are very sought after and attract top prices. Lots of stuff on t’internet about them - if you want accuracy go for the very long 91/30 (see my avatar - 91/30 shooting Sierras) - top tip on the long girl is that the rear sight comes off to reveal a standard 11mm (?) dovetail which accommodates a long-eye relief pistol scope in what the yanks call Scout Rifle mode. Or if you want to make a few new but slightly strange friends (whilst simultaneously losing many of your existing ones) the M44 carbine with side-slung bayonet aka the “Russian Boomstick‘ is great fun - top tip don’t fire your first ever shot until twilight…… Can you see those far-off trees light up children? Unfortunately it does not have the concealed dovetail so you will need to get something like a Brass Stacker mount for the scope. That reminds me I think I have one so if you go down the M44 (not the motorway) route send me a pm. One word word of warning about the Mossies - Cosmoline - if you are lucky enough to pick one up unissued do not fire your new toy until you have got all and I do mean all of this noxious unction removed - especially from the chamber and bore, the damned stuff sets brick hard and is a nightmare to remove. Also the bolt is usually rammed full of it, often leading to a lazy firing pin and guns being returned to RFDs as faulty - Mrs FB’s hairdryer worked a treat in both of mine.
SRs are fantastic too and slightly quirky, I always think the action is inside out but they are very well made and usually extremely accurate too but from memory they come in a couple of slightly different chamberings - unlike the Mossies not really my forte but others will advise.

Like most older guns prices are getting a bit silly but what can you do, even in the US they are upwards of 400 dollars, but not long ago, maybe 5/7 years, you could buy a crate of 20 91/30s, incl. bayonets, slings, cleaning kits, oil bottles and 2x 400 (?) sardine cans of military ammo for less than 1000 dollars. Changed times.
As per an earlier thread I would be very keen to get my 91/30 on for deer, it is certainly well able for it but the Mauser M48 is in the lead in that hotly contested race….. the plan is to get it drilled for proper scope mounts first.
Soooo just to whet your appetite see below. I wish you well in your search sir.
🦊🦊
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What mount you use for the k31 matey?
 
What mount you use for the k31 matey?
Sorry - I don’t have one. The Mosin M44 has a Brass-stacker US scout mount and the 91/30 has a concealed dovetail under the back sight, simply remove it and use standard mounts (can’t recall the width). To be honest I never found either to be a challenge except at first firing when the long girl was putting PPU bullets in sideways at 10 yards - see foto! Major challenge potentially, then I was told that they hate PPU, a quick switch to S&B cheered me up and been reloading ever since with excellent results. My avatar shows 3 shots out of the long girl - sub 1/2 inch. Love ‘em!
🦊🦊
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Sorry - I don’t have one. The Mosin M44 has a Brass-stacker US scout mount and the 91/30 has a concealed dovetail under the back sight, simply remove it and use standard mounts (can’t recall the width). To be honest I never found either to be a challenge except at first firing when the long girl was putting PPU bullets in sideways at 10 yards - see foto! Major challenge potentially, then I was told that they hate PPU, a quick switch to S&B cheered me up and been reloading ever since with excellent results. My avatar shows 3 shots out of the long girl - sub 1/2 inch. Love ‘em!
🦊🦊
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Mine seems okay with PPU.

Trouble I was having was the old POI being about 12” higher than POA. Solved that. But now I think it’s me that makes the problem
 
What is your view of the woodwork being "sympathetically restored"?

It does not help, that I am also vacillating between a K11 and a K39.
Hard to be specific without seeing it in the flesh. It looks a bit shinier than original, but that could well just be the lighting/flash effect on the photos. I suppose as time marches on, more and more rifles of this era will need "sympathetically" restoring anyway and it doesn't look to be a bad job and if so, that wouldn't put me off. But that's only my thoughts and it's not me that might consider buying it. The metalwork looks in good nick.

Although the feller shoots at the same range I occasionally frequent I believe, I don't know him. However, looking at his stock (which in the current ongoing unpleasantness hasn't changed greatly recently) it looks all clean stuff as does his sold stuff. Some seem to have had some restoration and some not.

I guess if you live daan saaf it'd be a fair trek to look at it. Perhaps you could arrange to meet at the range, where you could examine it and maybe see it in action should you decide it's worth a look. Should it be up to snuff, I think the price is in the right ball park.

Hope that's helpful.
 
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