Fieldsports Britain - Hand Thrown Birds - What Were They Thinking?

[Strike]

While I do agree its not very sporting.
Some might think It could arguably be seen as a more sustainable option, when compared to this countries chosen method. Large shoots releasing 10s of thousands of marauding, non native gobblers of every insect, larvae, reptile and wild seed.
To be shot, or not, by corporate guns pretending to be country sportsmen or women, out for a free day's jolly.
It's all very well for us to sit and criticise others for their chosen methods, however, we should perhaps take a good long look in the mirror.
I use a thermal spotter when foxing, the fox could be 3 or 4 fields away when I first see it.
I work out the best plan of action to get it or myself into a position to shoot.
This maybe by calling, or moving to a better vantage point.
I then use a thermal sight on a rifle, to target and kill the fox, that has no idea it is in any danger.
Generally, if I see them, it's all over.
A satisfying result for me.
Efficient, definitely, Humane, I think so.
However Some might see this as....
Not very sporting.

 

[devon deer stalker]

Bit like most of their pieces

Filmed to justify their jollies in the name of “sporting journalism”

The show is a comedy piece at best used to promote the pockets of their presenters and certain manufacturers who in their eyes can do no wrong

It’s everything distasteful about reviews and reviewers of old

If you want to see realistic and no bollocx reviews go watch Chris Parkin

I don’t think or can’t think of anyone who I watch in the deer stalking arena other than Tomas Haigland (spelling) who doesn’t make me cringe with embarrassment

Spot on.

The issue is we will all be tarred by the same brush by non shooting people.

They have made an error, and not the first.

 

[HallyButt]

While I do agree its not very sporting.
Some might think It could arguably be seen as a more sustainable option, when compared to this countries chosen method. Large shoots releasing 10s of thousands of marauding, non native gobblers of every insect, larvae, reptile and wild seed.
To be shot, or not, by corporate guns pretending to be country sportsmen or women, out for a free day's jolly.
It's all very well for us to sit and criticise others for their chosen methods, however, we should perhaps take a good long look in the mirror.
I use a thermal spotter when foxing, the fox could be 3 or 4 fields away when I first see it.
I work out the best plan of action to get it or myself into a position to shoot.
This maybe by calling, or moving to a better vantage point.
I then use a thermal sight on a rifle, to target and kill the fox, that has no idea it is in any danger.
Generally, if I see them, it's all over.
A satisfying result for me.
Efficient, definitely, Humane, I think so.
However Some might see this as....
Not very sporting.

But your foxing is vermin removal, a function that doesn’t need to be sporting, humane is everything. I agree mass corporate shooting has a lot to answer for, but it’s not as unsporting as throwing birds into the air

 

[enfieldspares]

There are similar "horrors" to be found if you search "tower bird shoot USA" on the internet. Birds hoisted up in plastic transport cages, like barn fowls, and then hand thrown from the top of a tower to a ring of guns below.

 

[Swedish]

There are similar "horrors" to be found if you search "tower bird shoot USA" on the internet. Birds hoisted up in plastic transport cages, like barn fowls, and then hand thrown from the top of a tower to a ring of guns below.

Isn't this the origin of trap shooting?

 

[Hatch]

I'll repost what I said in the sister thread...

Just remember that personal opinion is what keeps things interesting in life. It would be very Orwellian and immensely boring if we all thought the same, wouldn't it?

I think if you watch the video in its entirety you'll see that Fieldsports Channel actually do a very good job of toeing the very feint line of impartiality.

Whilst it's not my cup of tea in any way shape or form, that does not mean that it doesn't deserve to be covered by journalists in a manner which feeds curiosity and awareness for the viewer. The beauty of life (and where we live) is that we have an apparent free choice to choose what we do/do not like. There will be a vast number of people, perhaps with backgrounds similar to those shown in the footage, that thoroughly enjoy this type of shooting and applaud that a professional media outfit has taken the time to show their cause.

As I am sure others will agree, many things go on in the world legally that I do not agree with - both in and out of the field sports world. However, I think that to say that it shouldn't be covered by a media outlet in its entirety is unfair. In my personal opinion, I think all 95% of media surrounding the shooting world is going to be met negatively by those that just simply oppose shooting - there's very little you can do to combat that and unfortunately just something we have to live with.

Open-mindedness to hearing one's views/way of life is, in my opinion, exactly how you find your own moral/ethical compass.

For those of you who are interested, Charlie Jacoby (founder/narrator of Fieldsports Channel), did a great podcast with Tweedl. They talk about similar things and how journalism in the Fieldsports arena has developed. In particular, they comment on seeing/reporting on things you may not personally agree with. Here's the link if you have Spotify (HERE)


Hatch

 

[doric_prince]

Just remember that personal opinion is what keeps things interesting in life. It would be very Orwellian and immensely boring if we all thought the same, wouldn't it?

Well, that’s just you opinion and you are entitled to it…… some might find it exciting.

 

[timbrayford]

While I do agree its not very sporting.
Some might think It could arguably be seen as a more sustainable option, when compared to this countries chosen method. Large shoots releasing 10s of thousands of marauding, non native gobblers of every insect, larvae, reptile and wild seed.
To be shot, or not, by corporate guns pretending to be country sportsmen or women, out for a free day's jolly.
It's all very well for us to sit and criticise others for their chosen methods, however, we should perhaps take a good long look in the mirror.
I use a thermal spotter when foxing, the fox could be 3 or 4 fields away when I first see it.
I work out the best plan of action to get it or myself into a position to shoot.
This maybe by calling, or moving to a better vantage point.
I then use a thermal sight on a rifle, to target and kill the fox, that has no idea it is in any danger.
Generally, if I see them, it's all over.
A satisfying result for me.
Efficient, definitely, Humane, I think so.
However Some might see this as....
Not very sporting.

I live on the boundaries of a commercial shoot, I don't recognise your description, far from being devoid in native wildlife its a haven for it. Mammals include hazel dormice and red squirrels , BOPs include red kites, sea eagles , kestrels, sparrowhawks, buzzards, and marsh harriers just to name a few. There is an extremely rare area of SSSI floating bog woodland. Reptiles and insects abound. I could go on but I hope that you can picture it!

 

[Strike]

The thread really was, how wise it was to produce a video showing what we may see as unsporting shooting. I was really trying to say, there are those that look at what we do and think the same. We should just get on with what we do without any apologies.
Commit the day to memory and not to video.

On, Some might think It could arguably be seen as a more sustainable option, when compared to this countries chosen method. Large shoots releasing 10s of thousands of marauding, non native gobblers of every insect, larvae, reptile and wild seed.
This was my attemt to play devils advocate.

Large commercial shoots may do all you say, however it cannot be argued that large numbers of pheasants are not doing what I said.

Pheasants eat anything and everything they come across. It's what they do.
It's ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
We tend to see what we want to see.

 

[timbrayford]

The thread really was, how wise it was to produce a video showing what we may see as unsporting shooting. I was really trying to say, there are those that look at what we do and think the same. We should just get on with what we do without any apologies.
Commit the day to memory and not to video.

On, Some might think It could arguably be seen as a more sustainable option, when compared to this countries chosen method. Large shoots releasing 10s of thousands of marauding, non native gobblers of every insect, larvae, reptile and wild seed.
This was my attemt to play devils advocate.

Large commercial shoots may do all you say, however it cannot be argued that large numbers of pheasants are not doing what I said.

Pheasants eat anything and everything they come across. It's what they do.
It's ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
We tend to see what we want to see.

Not in my experience gained in over 50 years of driven and rough shooting

 

[JH83]

The death of shooting will be the library of videos out there showing the big bag days, and the onerous characters parading their egos involved in making them. The error in judgement FSB make in some of their ‘causes’ and ‘stars’ is astonishing to me.

This morning I saw a video about a gut shot deer (albeit not FSB), with a chap who is admittedly very new to stalking, who felt ‘it needed to be shown’.

I vehemently disagree, it doesn’t need to be shown, neither does botched head shots, front legs swinging…..it needs to be absolutely kept out of the publics view.

 

[devon deer stalker]

The death of shooting will be the library of videos out there showing the big bag days, and the onerous characters parading their egos involved in making them. The error in judgement FSB make in some of their ‘causes’ and ‘stars’ is astonishing to me.

This morning I saw a video about a gut shot deer (albeit not FSB), with a chap who is admittedly very new to stalking, who felt ‘it needed to be shown’.

I vehemently disagree, it doesn’t need to be shown, neither does botched head shots, front legs swinging…..it needs to be absolutely kept out of the publics view.

Absolutely, and just in case people missed the first video on FSB they decided to show it again yesterday.
I also watched Charlie shooting some grey partridge, now I know the camera angle can be deceptive, but there were some shots that appeared very low indeed.